Lamborghini Urus; Likey or No Likey?
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Estate cars aren't better in every way at all. SUVs are safer for a start, easier to load kids into, and the 3rd row in an SUV is a lot better than the 3rd row in an estate car.
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That's a really nice Hyundai they've built there.
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Your first two points are an opinion and not fact. It is far easier to load dogs in the back for example and it will be easier for a child to get into a lower car. I fail to see how SUVs are safer. Estates will have better handling, better braking, better acceleration and less likely to roll over. All good attributes to have when looking at safety. Also if you need a car with a 3rd row of seats you might as well get a van or the snip.
If you had the choice of a Range Rover or a RS6/E63 4 matic estate I know which I would rather have.
Can you quantify this? Don't get me wrong, I like estate cars, but they are becoming less and less common, mainly for the exact opposite reason your claim.. an SUV in general, will be the better option. More interior space, higher ground clearance meaning easier access, generally higher towing capacity. And usually, they are more commonly available in four wheel drive. About the only thing I can think of that an estate does better is look better, (which is subjective anyway), and have better driving dynamics... which I guess most people buying in this segment don't care about.
We own an SUV because although an estate would have provided enough load space in general, we also need to be able to tow a horse box across rough ground.
I've already posted this a few posts above your post but the data backs it up - there are far fewer deaths in SUVs than other cars.
You don't buy a van if you need a 3rd row, you buy a van if you've given up on life.
Maybe it's different in the US vs the UK but everyone has either a pickup or an SUV here. I think I've seen about 3 estates in the 3 years I've been here. You can't get an estate car that comes anywhere close to some of the SUVs over here in terms of luggage space. Our 'crossover' has more luggage space than an A6, E-Class, Mondeo, etc
As I said, your main argument here seems to be that an estate drives better... that I don't deny, but it's hardly the primary concern for someone looking for a practical car, hence why there's less of them nowadays, more's the pity
They aren't safer, they are much more likely to roll over in an accident or even while trying to evade a crash in some of them.
Some of them (and MPVs actually) looked really hairy on the moose test.
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That's only really a case in the BMW/Merc/Audi world. No idea why they do it but perhaps because they're one of the few manufacturers that sell more saloons (just a guess I don't know the figures)? Most other manufacturers seem to release the tech at the same time, or before saloons (see Volvo and the XC40 as an example).
SUVs get slated on here because people seem obsessed with fast cars, rather than practical vehicles.
Yes, they're twice as likely to roll over. But rollovers aren't the majority cause of death and serious injury so your point within a general safety framework is null and void, even before we consider the rollover potential of the said SUV in the OP.
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SUV's are on the same floorpan as estates in most cases how are they more safe because said floorpan is higher up? There is more to safety than taking an impact. Impact avoidance is just as important. An estate will have better brakes, acceleration and stability in this area like for like.
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Lamborghini Uterus, where Chelsea Mums stick their kids. Lamborghinis are supposed to be mental not sensible, like this.
I mean, just look at it's arse end. Mental!
I mean, just look at it's arse end. Mental!
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Ah yes, the old “I’m a great driver and can avoid accidents” phase of the argument...
In a multi car incident being in the heavier vehicle means you’re exposed to less forces than the person in the other vehicle. Being higher up also means the smaller vehicle may well hit the much stronger chassis of your vehicle than doors and bonnet (for example) meaning less damage to the cockpit of your vehicle.
Take a more extreme example. Would you rather be in the pickup sat on top of the low slung sports car, or on the sports car that has found itself with the back axle of the pickup through its front windscreen? Which occupants are most likely to be injured in this scenario (I’ve seen this twice in two years as an FYI, so it’s not a particularly unusual scenario).
And does your estate have better brakes, acceleration and stability than the one in the OP? Probably not. All of them are very dependent on the specific vehicle being compared.
Either way statistically you ARE safer in an SUV/larger vehicle, and it’s just one of several reasons more people now prefer them over saloons. Saloons and estates are great mile munchers for those travelling back and forwards on long journeys (aka the rep in his repmobile), but for most they just aren’t as practical. People are voting with their feet, which is why saloon and estate sales have plummeted in the last decade.
I can't understand why there's a market out there for this. A four door Lambo (I think the concept was the Estoque?) looked brilliant and likely would be, but a jacked up Lambo that won't go off road and will be flawed on the road..
Lamborghini Uterus, where Chelsea Mums stick their kids. Lamborghinis are supposed to be mental not sensible, like this.
I mean, just look at it's arse end. Mental!
Agreed. But looking at the Urus, its not s bad looking car. Would i ever consider buying one..... No, why because they as already said Lamborghini's are suppose to be mental.