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chroniclard · 13 Dec 2017 at 17:07

I loathe those sequential indicators, not sure why. It would actually stop me buying a car with them.....

Scania · 13 Dec 2017 at 17:18

chroniclard said:
I loathe those sequential indicators, not sure why. It would actually stop me buying a car with them.....

Me too, don’t know why but I detest them- the bloody things are even appearing on trucks now!

andicole0 · 13 Dec 2017 at 17:29

Just to point out that you don't need the sub standard 4wd or that amount of power or even a car costing that much.
Andi.

Havana_UK · 13 Dec 2017 at 18:31

M240i, but I'm biased as I have the M135i and love it to bits!

Mate of mine had the S3, but changed it for an RS3 almost as soon as they were launched so I can't really speak for them. RS3 is mightily quick and makes a great noise, S3 seemed very capable and surefooted, but not especially exciting to drive.

chroniclard · 13 Dec 2017 at 19:05

Only thing that bothers me with rear wheel drive is its pants in anything but ideal conditions.

mmcg1 · 13 Dec 2017 at 19:06

What about a C63?

[TW]Fox · 13 Dec 2017 at 19:09

chroniclard said:
Only thing that bothers me with rear wheel drive is its pants in anything but ideal conditions.

No it's not.

Diddums · 13 Dec 2017 at 19:42

chroniclard said:
I loathe those sequential indicators, not sure why. It would actually stop me buying a car with them.....

Same. It's literally just messing around with things for no reason other than to appease the kind of person who drives his TT with the wing always raised. If I was given a car with them I wouldn't even start it without turning them off. Completely pointless.

Jumper118 · 13 Dec 2017 at 20:10

Participant said:

that is the 2020 audi s3

godinman · 13 Dec 2017 at 20:16

I like those sequential indicators..

Ev0 · 13 Dec 2017 at 20:17

Vertigo · 13 Dec 2017 at 20:47

paradigm said:
Its probably worth pointing out that the "super sports seats" are merely a different seat back (and thus fixed headrest) the seat bases are the same between the normal "S" seat and the "Super". So it you are looking at this from a comfort POV, go and sit in both first, as the lack of headrest mobility in the super seats might put you off. It certainly made me question the cost of the option!

I'd have to say though, the choice between the two in your OP come down to driving dynamics. Do you want something that feels more raw and connected, or do you want it to be effortlessly fast in any weather, but far more numb?

I'd say the interior is far nicer in the S3, the 1/2-series just feels cheaper, the infotainment systems are a matter of preference, both are nice, but virtual cockpit on the Audi is superb.

In the end for me it came down to needing more than 2 doors, and preferring the styling of saloons over hatches.

100% this basically.

wesley said:
Why 3 saloon? They looks wrong. The boot lid looks far too small for the rest of body. A4 saloon more suits.

LOL!

paradigm said:
You're having a laugh, right? Most people think that the saloon just has the "right" proportions.

Exactly.

Gibbo said:
This having followed and being followed by Elliot in his S3 saloon they are lovely looking cars, with an element of class to them and they have the lovely sequential very bling rear indicators.

Fronts too if you want

[TW]Fox said:
I'm totally biased towards BMWs and against Audis...

Therefore M240i wins.

Fixed for you

Dav4 · 13 Dec 2017 at 21:03

[TW]Fox said:
only 4 cylinders and an embarrassing number of exhausts

I hated the 4 exhausts when I first seen them on the S3 and R I thought it’s abit ott for a 2.0T but then again they are quick cars with 300+bhp and it probably won’t be long before more manufacturers start copying to make the performance models stand out given the embarrassing amount of cars that now come with twin exhausts from factory such as 85bhp Kia Picanto’s, Merc Amg Sport A180’s with a mighty 107bhp are everywhere, generic diesel cars with 150ish bhp, and they even seem to be on every run of the mill diesel crossover/4x4 lately.

Diagro · 13 Dec 2017 at 21:20

The i30N? Ha

Vertigo · 13 Dec 2017 at 21:21

Dav4 said:
I hated the 4 exhausts when I first seen them on the S3 and R I thought it’s abit ott for a 2.0T but then again they are quick cars with 300+bhp and it probably won’t be long before more manufacturers start copying to make the performance models stand out given the embarrassing amount of cars that now come with twin exhausts from factory such as 85bhp Kia Picanto’s, Merc Amg Sport A180’s with a mighty 107bhp are everywhere, generic diesel cars with 150ish bhp, and they even seem to be on every run of the mill diesel crossover/4x4 lately.

They do sound good too

chroniclard · 13 Dec 2017 at 21:48

[TW]Fox said:
No it's not.

Is.

TheVoice · 14 Dec 2017 at 00:02

always late said:
Same. It's literally just messing around with things for no reason other than to appease the kind of person who drives his TT with the wing always raised. If I was given a car with them I wouldn't even start it without turning them off. Completely pointless.

To me they sort of defy the point of having LED indicators in the first place; you want that bright, instant ON-OFF flash to be noticeable, not a sequential pattern that gradually increases in brightness. Plus it looks tacky.

Robi · 14 Dec 2017 at 11:29

chroniclard said:
Only thing that bothers me with rear wheel drive is its pants in anything but ideal conditions.

I'm sorry, what? I have an M135i and I don't find that to be the case at all. Yes, if I plant my right foot when the road is drenched and it's raining heavily, then of course the rear will start to slide. AWD will obviously perform better in those conditions. However, I can still drive spiritedly but safely even when it isn't a lovely summers day with a warm road.

Milkybk said:
BMW M240i (title of thread is wrong)

Joe Achilles has done a couple of videos on the M240i, LCI M240i and a video comparing it to the M2, you should check them out:

Hopefully the videos are helpful

chroniclard · 14 Dec 2017 at 11:32

Robi said:
I'm sorry, what? I have an M135i and I don't find that to be the case at all.

So it doesn't lose traction in the wet? Doesn't squirm around when giving it even moderate beans?

Not talking about pootling around here.