Diane Abbott: "Fire puts out water"

Or believe in the "only white people can be racist" mantra or have some sort of fictitious white male working class chip on your shoulder about being the biggest 'victim' in society nowadays and how hard you have it
Happy with my lot, nice big house, wife, 4 kids and a job I enjoy and a pension.
What's not to like.
 
That's pretty funny :p and you would have to be an SJW moron of the highest order to shout racism about that (a bit like the ones over the university 'white campus' tweet) since it's poking fun at her personally, not her race or colour
 
That's pretty funny :p and you would have to be an SJW moron of the highest order to shout racism about that (a bit like the ones over the university 'white campus' tweet) since it's poking fun at her personally, not her race or colour
Oh you should have a look on Twitter, where there is the usual massive outrage and wanting the guy to be outed, arrested/sacked from his job/flogged in public.
 
See I'm a proud 'lefty liberal' as I would be labelled on here :p and it annoys the **** out of me these SJWs are lumped in under that generalisation, they aren't left or liberal, they are just ******* morons
 
I'm loving all the butthurt sjw replies to that then some of the replies to those! Maybe it was a black woman born in a white man's body after all...
 
They have removed the tweet now and put up an apology:

Pathetic really, the joke wasn't about her being black, it was the 190. It seems context or common sense has no relevance these days. The guy in the fancy dress makes sure the 190 is visible in every photo.

I watched white chicks on TV last week, what are you views on that? Should it be banned?
 
It's a great costume and really funny, I'm glad black people are doing so well as a group that people dressing up as them is such a pressing concern (by that I'm referring to issues such as black on black violence/knife crime and the levels of poverty in the black community in this country).
 
It's a great costume and really funny, I'm glad black people are doing so well as a group that people dressing up as them is such a pressing concern (by that I'm referring to issues such as black on black violence/knife crime and the levels of poverty in the black community in this country).

Blackface has been a pressing concern for black people for centuries. Blackface was a key component of the minstrel shows of the early 19th Century, in which white performers would play slaves and free blacks. These portrayals would be built around insulting, degrading, and dehumanising stereotypes of black people: the aggressive "buck" with his lustful eye on white women; the freed slave who aspired to polite society but couldn't pronounce his words correctly; the unkempt, neglected black children who were disposable even to their own parents. Blackface demeaned black people, and desensitised white audiences on both sides of the Atlantic to the horrors of slavery.

How relevant is that to today? I don't know but many black people still find blackface to be offensive. Would the joke have worked just as well without the blackface? Almost certainly.
 
Blackface has been a pressing concern for black people for centuries. Blackface was a key component of the minstrel shows of the early 19th Century, in which white performers would play slaves and free blacks. These portrayals would be built around insulting, degrading, and dehumanising stereotypes of black people: the aggressive "buck" with his lustful eye on white women; the freed slave who aspired to polite society but couldn't pronounce his words correctly; the unkempt, neglected black children who were disposable even to their own parents. Blackface demeaned black people, and desensitised white audiences on both sides of the Atlantic to the horrors of slavery.

How relevant is that to today? I don't know but many black people still find blackface to be offensive. Would the joke have worked just as well without the blackface? Almost certainly.

I was just typing a very similar (albeit less eloquent) post.

I did chuckle at the 190 but anyone who 'blacks up' must surely understand the offence it could cause.
 
Would the joke have worked just as well without the blackface? Almost certainly.

I disagree, If he just had a sign saying 190 it wouldn't have meant anything and wouldn't have been funny. The fact he has dressed up to indicate it's Diane Abbot is the whole context of the joke.

There is a difference to 'blacking up' in the historical context you mentioned due to its overt degrading and dehumanising context and 'blacking up' because the person you are imitating is black
 
I disagree, If he just had a sign saying 190 it wouldn't have meant anything and wouldn't have been funny. The fact he has dressed up to indicate it's Diane Abbot is the whole context of the joke.

There is a difference to 'blacking up' in the historical context you mentioned due to its overt degrading and dehumanising context and 'blacking up' because the person you are imitating is black

No. Because it would have made no sense. A bloke holding a sign saying 190?!

If he had worn the same outfit with a Diane Abbott name tag it would have worked just as well.
 
Blackface has been a pressing concern for black people for centuries. Blackface was a key component of the minstrel shows of the early 19th Century, in which white performers would play slaves and free blacks. These portrayals would be built around insulting, degrading, and dehumanising stereotypes of black people: the aggressive "buck" with his lustful eye on white women; the freed slave who aspired to polite society but couldn't pronounce his words correctly; the unkempt, neglected black children who were disposable even to their own parents. Blackface demeaned black people, and desensitised white audiences on both sides of the Atlantic to the horrors of slavery.

How relevant is that to today? I don't know but many black people still find blackface to be offensive. Would the joke have worked just as well without the blackface? Almost certainly.

Someone taking offense to something doesn't mean anything, context needs to be taken into account. If someone is dressing up as a black person with the intention of proliferating negative sterotypes of black people then that is racist and wrong. That's not what this is.
 
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