California prepares to legalize marijuana on New Year's Day

When society has a responsibility towards you though that crosses a line. If you want to get smashed and have you stomach pumped or trounce your liver it costs me money.

This is want I mean, if you can't remain in control of it and it's effects don't use them.
 
One difference would be someone using alcohol irresponsibly can go on to wipe out a family in a car accident. Someone using weed driving at 20mph on 40mph Road isn’t going to do that more often than not.
Lol so you think people who smoke weed only drive slow, lol
 
In my experience yes :) it’s a mellowing / relaxation drug. It’s effects typically don’t encourage you becoming brave or gaining courage. Racing or speeding would be doing the opposite of how you feel.

I've been in a car with a guy under the influence of cannabis and he was definitely not chilled.
It doesn't always induce relaxation
 
One major effect of the law is that it causes a massive inflation of the price. Farmers are poor. As soon as it gets into the hands of someone willing to cross a border with it and break the "law" it's magically worth up to one hundered thousand percent more!

Lets just say there were absolutely no drug laws, and drugs were valued for what they are, vegetables; what would the effect on society actually be? Would everyone be snorting cocaine all day?

I know one thing that would happen, crimes committed for the acquisition of drugs would decrease heavily. Junkies wouldn't need to commit as many burglaries if they can get a gram for 10 pence as opposed to £50.
 
I've been in a car with a guy under the influence of cannabis and he was definitely not chilled.
It doesn't always induce relaxation

In this case it is not the fault of the cannabis.

If you are an experienced cannabis user, and are aware that the cannabis inhibits your ability to drive as well, then it is the person's fault.
 
When society has a responsibility towards you though that crosses a line. If you want to get smashed and have you stomach pumped or trounce your liver it costs me money.

It costs society more money...but arguably people who are getting smashed are paying more by way of increased duties anyway. I'm not convinced increased healthcare costs are a water tight justification for prohibition.
 
It costs society more money...but arguably people who are getting smashed are paying more by way of increased duties anyway. I'm not convinced increased healthcare costs are a water tight justification for prohibition.

It's not just healthcare costs. Something stupid like 80% of all crime on Friday and Saturday nights is alcohol related!
 
Honestly, all drugs should be legalized.. we should deal with people and their addictions rather than fighting the war on drugs, its not worked, and won't work..

Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell did a great video on it.

 
Antibiotics, not psychoactive substances which is obviously the context of this thread and my comments.

sure but the point was that this idea that the state can't "morally" regulate drugs is a bit dubious as in some cases you agree with the regulation of some drugs for "public health" reasons... when arguably there are plenty of good reasons to regulate other drugs too
 
sure but the point was that this idea that the state can't "morally" regulate drugs is a bit dubious as in some cases you agree with the regulation of some drugs for "public health" reasons... when arguably there are plenty of good reasons to regulate other drugs too

That's not exactly what I originally said though,

no one has the right to impose their views onto other people and dictate what drugs they can or can't take.

The context being psychoactive drugs. I didn't say that the state has no business regulating drugs of any kind.
 
The context being psychoactive drugs. I didn't say that the state has no business regulating drugs of any kind.

I know you didn't but you then came out with this:

Morally the state does not have that right. As far as I am concerned if a police officer is trying to arrest an individual for drug use, using lethal force to resist them is justified, just as it would be against any other form of abduction.

putting aside the keyboard warrior nonsense about taking the life of police officers this argument that "morally" the state does not have the right to regulate some drugs but you're happy that it can regulate others is rather dubious

it's got little to do with regulations being inherently immoral, you just don't want the state to regulate say weed etc.. it is simply your opinion/view - likewise the other poster who earlier wanted to argue that it was "illogical" to regulate stuff that can be grown naturally was making a pretty dubious statement
 
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