Poll: Poll: Do you think the force is reasonable and justified?

Do you think the force used is reasonable and justifiable?

  • Yes

    Votes: 214 64.7%

  • No

    Votes: 94 28.4%

  • Unsure

    Votes: 23 6.9%
  • Total voters
    331
Never understood, no matter how drunk you are, how it’s a good idea to fight someone likely twice your body weight and on the gear.

He could have flicked that lad over.
 
Dup said:
In my opinion bouncers are there to prevent this kicking off in the first place. If people didn't fear this being the outcome there would just be endless trouble. Same with with the police, they should be permitted to give people a good kicking on the same basis. Sure the police should be seen as fair and approachable. But I can't help but feel a lot of situations would be avoidable if they were feared by those who think they can get away with petty things like this. A presence should be enough and that's no longer the case in many situations it seems.
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Nail on head. Far too many softies these days.
 
Yeah it was fine, as said the second and third probably not but we don't know why it kicked off in the first place.

Anyway, the bouncer isn't just walking around randomly hitting people lol.

TBH, as said I wish the police could do this at times, rather than having to faff around and grab an arm to put a hand cuff on.
 
Normal people don't go out ****** or stoned looking for a fight, if everyone was a normal type of person, there'd be no need for bouncers.

He got what he deserved IMO.

Please do not circumvent the swear filter
 
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Get rekt.. I'll never understand why people start on a bouncer... they've had more fights than most people and are not scared to throw a punch or 3.

Saw a bouncer up north absolutely pummel a kid a few month ago, tried to throw him out, kid bit his hand hard, guy landed 5-6 punches to his head in quick succession and the kid became a heap of meat on the floor.
 
Yes. Beanie Hat Idiot was only treated as a threat when he was a threat. Bouncer disengaged every time after neutralising threat.

BHI’s problem was that he kept being a threat.
 
I bet you most coppers wish they could handle someone like that, most need a backup of half a dozen to sort a loose cannon out.
 
Would any reasonable person acting as a bouncer, act in a similar fashion in the same scenario? - I'd say they probably would, the guy is practically by himself amid a crowd of drunken raging people, I think he did a good job of getting things under control.
 
First punch justifiable, not sure on the next one to the same chap but again he got up and started walking over to the bouncer rather than away.

Yet the typical stuff happens, he gets put down twice then suddenly people watching want to jump in.
 
Moses said:
Does the fact he’s a bouncer confer on him extra rights/allow him a greater scope for leniency?
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Not extra rights no, potential leniency - I might expect so, his job is to protect the establishment from violent trouble makers, people who might cause problems etc - if all hell breaks loose - it could probably be argued that it's within his job and training to try and deal with it, drunken people are wrestling and fighting with him - I don't think it was unreasonable for him to use force in the way that he did.
 
It seems that there's a clear split in opinion on this one. I think that I fall in the group who feels that the first punch that floored him was ok, but the subsequent blows were somewhat excessive. I don't think he was much of a threat after that and could probably have been adequately deterred just by pushing. If charges were raised I'd hope that some form of excessive force question was raised because of that. Sure the guy was being a muppet but being a bouncer doesn't give you any greater rights to hit someone than the average person has.
 
Ah, good old Ink. No night is complete without a brawl and idiot bouncers making everything worse. This happens all the time there. They are absolute ***** of the highest order and instead of restraining people like they are supposed to, they prefer to use fists.
 
Repeated blows to the head is not reasonable force, it looks like the bouncer is trying to cause maximum damage with each swing.
 
seems sort of ok, floors the guy then leaves him alone until he gets back up for another go.

for me the line were reasonable force ends is when you hit a man while he's down, if he's up and coming for you again then that's his problem, he knew the bouncer could punch, he knew the bouncer would leave him alone if he stayed down, but he tried anyway.

the only exception if if there's uneven numbers and you need them to stay down, which doesn't apply in this case.
 
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