Tesla has ruined cars for me.
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No, not at all. I have been in a couple of Tesla (Teslas?) as they are a popular taxi in Amsterdam. When you give it the beans they are seriously exhilarating cars just to be in, let alone drive.
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Model 3 officially does 0-60 in 5.1 seconds but a reviewer tested it twice yesterday in the dry and managed it in 4.4 seconds on both runs.
He had a proper GPS recording device in the car as well.
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I imagine cornering in a tesla to be nowhere near as fun due to all those batteries weighing it down.
It’s not great but it’s nowhere near as bad as you think. The batteries are in the floor of the car so the centre of mavity is very low.
I’ve rented a few for weekends away and now have an i3 on order... it’s the instant response I crave day to day.
They do a P60 and P70 too. Still expensive and an unknown but amazing cars,
The batteries are the lowest thing in the car, they actually handle fairly well for being so heavy
Only issue is that they're 465lbft standard and the gearboxes are only rated to ~515. Anything above that and you're potentially running on borrowed time.
Granted I have never driven a Tesla and for instant bursts of brutal acceleration and 0-60 traffic light Grand Prixs you can probably count on one hand the other few super cars that can put the power down and match it but I feel the Tesla is often put on a massive pedestal by many especially on the Internet by fanboys who make it out to be untouchable.
Take this episode of head 2 head on Netflix for instance where they compared the Tesla against the Charger SRT Hellcat which is a 5 door car with a 0-60 of 3.7 seconds and only costs just over half what the Tesla does. Granted the Tesla wins by 1 second on the drag but the Charger is reeling it in and supposedly has a better 60-100 and 100+ acceleration time compared to the Tesla. Plus how long would the Tesla last in real world drving with it in sport mode all the time before needing charging? And given the price difference you could have 2 excellent cars compared to the 1 Tesla. Plus the noise alone from a proper car would be enough for me over the quiet sterile Tesla anyday.
Take this episode of head 2 head on Netflix for instance where they compared the Tesla against the Charger SRT Hellcat which is a 5 door car with a 0-60 of 3.7 seconds and only costs just over half what the Tesla does. Granted the Tesla wins by 1 second on the drag but the Charger is reeling it in and supposedly has a better 60-100 and 100+ acceleration time compared to the Tesla. Plus how long would the Tesla last in real world drving with it in sport mode all the time before needing charging? And given the price difference you could have 2 excellent cars compared to the 1 Tesla. Plus the noise alone from a proper car would be enough for me over the quiet sterile Tesla anyday.
You're comparing sport driving. The Tesla has a side effect of insane acceleration, it wasn't designed specifically for that. Imagine driving the Tesla to work, turning on the heat before you get in, pulling away from traffic lights completely effortlessly, overtaking without dropping gears or worrying if you'll make it. The fact it has no gears makes the ride so much nicer as it's a constant surge forward, then mix in auto pilot and it's damn near perfect.
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I'm still unsure of OP's point to be honest. I'm sure if I drove an M4 for a week it would suck to go back to my focus but then again it costs a lot less.
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I once repeatedly raced a Model S P100D in an Audi R8 V10 Spyder. I thought I might stand a chance once we hit 80mph or so but the Tesla completely wasted the R8, every single time. I only started reeling the Model S in at around 120-130mph. By that point, however, I was running out of road.
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Except actually it isn't, is it?
It's a technical tour-de-force with all the kit you could ever need and a fantastic electric power-train but it misses what makes a luxury car a luxury car. Beyond the tech the interior is crap - it feels cheap and nasty inside and is very basically styled.
When is somebody going to bring out a full EV to properly compete with the Tesla? They don't even appear to be on firms road maps.
Imagine a car with the interior and exterior of an E Class Mercedes but the technology of a Tesla. Now THAT would be damn near perfect. Instead we get 'plug in hybrids' with crappy 4 pot petrol engines in.
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I couldn't get on with that screen, it's hilarious and not in a good way. The ones I've seen the interior leaves a lot to be desired considering the price. I'd love a go in one but I'd not be interested in owning one, too many proper cars to own and drive before settling on a Tesla.
Totally valid point but as I say I can only speculate because I have never driven a Tesla but I was leaning more towards op asking “will anything feel fast or not bland” etc after he had a go in a Tesla I just think he needs to take a look around more at other cars because if he gets past the instant acceleration there are quite a few cars that can obviously match it and provide the speed he wants for a lot less money
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Next up people will be asking for wood in their futuristic electric cars.
Jaguar iPace? It's an SUV rather than Saloon but does that really matter? It'll be similar in price range to the Tesla S and X, and a serious luxury beast.
Rolls Royce has an all-electric coming, and after BMW tested the waters with the i3, I'm sure that a less quirky all-electric beast will be coming. In fact, I think pretty much every serious manufacturer will be offering a range of electric vehicles in the next few years.
The thing is, in ‘real world driving’ in the UK, 100+ accel times are irrelevant, it’s much more important to be able to accelerate within legal limits.
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Absolutely this. I don’t care if an XXXX can pull on the Tesla at 130mph etc as I just don’t drive that fast on the roads.
I do drive track days 3/4 times a year and I have a Mini JCW for that (stripped and mapped) and yea it’s slow (for a race car) but it’s amazingly fun when everyone is in the same car.
This car really splits opinions but I do wonder out of the haters who has actually driven it and experienced the way it delivers power???
I agree it’s not pretty inside but not is a GTR unless your into button fantastic interiors.
As others have said e-class / 5 series interior and Tesla drive train at around the 50k mark and they have nailed the market.
Electric is great but only Tesla delivers the range. Given I done 260 miles today and do this on a fairly regular basis I do need the range.
I don’t want somthing that looks like a GTR as much as I love the engineering it’s not a professional car I can take a client to lunch in.
Debating just going down the M3 route. Shame the M4 does not come in grand coupe. I can always fettle if I get bored of the stock power.
Might as well enjoy petrol engines whilst we can
One of my partners neighbours has a Tesla S, it’s a fantastic machine, but, they also have a 15 plate f10 M5, they use the Tesla as a daily but whilst the Tesla is fast in a straight line, they (husband & wife, both car nuts) both prefer the M5 for a driving experience perspective so much so the Tesla is going shortly in part ex for a new model M5 as & when BMW release it to them.
They say they’ll get another but most likely will wait five years or so for Tesla or whoever to overcome its shortcomings (but they didn’t divulge what they were) and feel by then electric will totally rule the roost.
Sad, but combustion engined cars days are numbered, these effectively entry / development level models (which current Tesla’s effectively are) already hand most performance cars’s arses to them, the next gen is going to leave them in the museum where they belong!
They say they’ll get another but most likely will wait five years or so for Tesla or whoever to overcome its shortcomings (but they didn’t divulge what they were) and feel by then electric will totally rule the roost.
Sad, but combustion engined cars days are numbered, these effectively entry / development level models (which current Tesla’s effectively are) already hand most performance cars’s arses to them, the next gen is going to leave them in the museum where they belong!