Sounds like you have a problem with what I posted, care to elaborate?
bbc drops itself in the...ya know. (discrimination)
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Sounds like you have a problem with what I posted, care to elaborate?
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Simply put, if you care so much about it set up your own service that helps underprivileged white kids.
You see this type of response all the time, especially when it comes to race or gender specific programmes/movements. If you care so deeply about the lack of support for the 'other side' then donate to the relevant causes, set up your own organisation, or do something to spread awareness.
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An organisation that discriminated in favour of white people in the same way as the BBC does would never be allowed. D.P. knows it and is just trying to be clever.
I didn't suggest that the existing scheme disappear. My point is, if they want to have a scheme targeted at minorities, they should also have an equivalent scheme targeted at non-minorities so that there is equal opportunity for everyone. I have no problem if they want to have two separate schemes and market/advertise them differently.
If I had the time, resources and reach that the BBC has then I would, but I don't. Helping out underprivileged white people if they are now being deliberately left out of such schemes wouldn't be a terrible thing would it?
The BBC has loads of apprenticeship / trainee schemes — like this one.
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They clearly have multiple schemes and they’re just advertising them differently which apparently you have no problem with.
Can you clarify or confirm whether these "Production" roles are the same as the "Trainee Multi-Media Journalist" opportunity being offered to non-whites only?
The onus is on the BBC to demonstrate that they are acting in a fair manner so I'm not sure why you are trying to put the onus on me personally for my impression of them as a result of these schemes.
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Is the thinking behind this that we're all racist, intentionally or subconsciously, to the point where BAME will never be proportionally represented if whites are handling recruitment? So you need a scheme to only hire BAME to overcome our innate racism?
Just wonder how far this rabbit hole goes. So maybe women will never be proportionally represented if men are handling recruitment. Same with straight people.
But also if you put BAME/women/LGBTQQC3PO+ in charge of recruitment you'll end up with over-representation, as presumably white, cis males do not have the exclusive monopoly on innate prejudice? If we're all racist then BAME recruiters would hire BAME candidates, etc.
Maybe a computer should be put in charge. Then we can recruit toasters to all positions.
Just wonder how far this rabbit hole goes. So maybe women will never be proportionally represented if men are handling recruitment. Same with straight people.
But also if you put BAME/women/LGBTQQC3PO+ in charge of recruitment you'll end up with over-representation, as presumably white, cis males do not have the exclusive monopoly on innate prejudice? If we're all racist then BAME recruiters would hire BAME candidates, etc.
Maybe a computer should be put in charge. Then we can recruit toasters to all positions.
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Representation shouldn't be the objective.
Equal opportunity should be, not equal outcome.
Equal opportunity should be, not equal outcome.
Yes but aren't they basically saying that equal opportunity cannot exist, because cis white males are so horribly innately prejudiced? Thus they consider this to be enabling equal opportunity by counteracting the tendency of cis white males to be horrible people?
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I suppose some people might think that, but I don't think that's the reason behind it.
I think it's as simple as:
- you publish some diversity stats, they don't tell you what you want
- you want to virtue signal about how you represent society
- so you racially discriminate in hiring to get the diversity stats on target
The objective should be to hire the best people based on merit, not based on 'fixing' a diversity 'problem'.
I think it's as simple as:
- you publish some diversity stats, they don't tell you what you want
- you want to virtue signal about how you represent society
- so you racially discriminate in hiring to get the diversity stats on target
The objective should be to hire the best people based on merit, not based on 'fixing' a diversity 'problem'.
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I guess if this has happened since time begun we wouldn't be even talking about this and this would never ever have been an issue.
But because it didn't, hence they are "fixing this diversity problem?"
Maybe the problem is real, but it's a problem of perceived inequality (of opportunity).
Rightly or wrongly, mabye a BAME child can never be inspired by a white astronaut, or a bridge built by a white engineer, because he's taught/perceives that only white people can enter into those professions. Maybe the thinking is that you have to "fix" the proportional representation by fair means or foul, in order that, given enough time, BAME children will dare to dream.
I have no idea either way, tbh. No squirrel in this race.
And the BBC feels that it has to do this because it's own organization is managed by inherently white racist people?
It has to forcibly clip it's own prejudice?
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The BBC is Zimbabwe. Get the whites out. 
Complete BS. The BBC themselves used to have a apprenticeship program only for working class people
There are countless organizations supporting poor white people seeking employment
I put the onus on you because you stated that:
Two seconds of Google searching for "BBC Apprenticeships" presented pages of results and the one I posted was simply the first.
If you look on BBC Careers you also get loads of results:
Journalism Trainee Scheme
Digital Journalism Apprenticeship
Kick Off Trainee Sports Reporter Scheme
I have no idea whether the one I originally posted is same as the Trainee Multi-Media Journalist scheme in the OP but then I'm not the one getting my knickers in a twist about it.
The onus is on you because you made the assertion. The BBC have provided lots of information (above) — why don't you compare and contrast and then come back with your findings. I've given you the tools but I'm not going to do your homework for you.
Do you believe equality of opportunity is a real thing in this country right now?
