The prince who had it all

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So i read a book recently that had this story in it, the quote is a bit of a read, but it is very interesting if you have never heard it.

It can easily be transitioned to explain the problem with today's society, and how the fact that we have so much of everything available so quickly, that is literally crippling ourselves in to a deep depression unless we realise it and address it.

It is also quite relevant to upcoming generations and how we shelter the youth from the harsh truths of life, creating safe spaces and not teaching the difficult lessons in our education system.

This post was really just to share this story.



Around 2,500 years ago in the Himalayan foothills of the present-day Nepal, there lived in a great palace a king who was going to have a son.

For this son the king had a particularly grand idea, he would make the child’s life perfect. The child would never know a moment of suffering, every need, ever desire would be accounted for at all times.

The king built high walls around the palace that prevented the prince from knowing the outside world. He spoilt the child lavishing him with food and gifts, surrounding him with servants that catered to his every whim, and just as planned the child grew up ignorant of the routine cruelties of human existence.

All of the prince’s childhood went on like this, but despite all the endless luxury and opulence, the prince became kind of a ****** off young man, soon every experience became empty and valueless. The problem was, no matter what his father gave him, it never seemed enough… Never meant anything.

So late one night the prince snuck out of the palace to see what was beyond its walls, he had a servant drive him through the local village, and what he saw horrified him. For the first time in his life; the prince saw human suffering, he saw sick people, old people, homeless people, people in pain, even people dying.

The prince returned to the palace and found himself in a sort of existential crisis, not knowing how to process what he had seen, he got all evil about everything and complained a lot, and as is so typical of young men, the prince ended up blaming his father for the very things his father had tried to do for him.

“It was the riches” the prince thought, that had made him so miserable. That had made life seem so meaningless, he decided to run away. But the prince was more like his father than he knew, he had grand ideas too, he wouldn’t just run away, he would give up his royalty, his family and all of his possessions and live in the streets; sleeping in the dirt like an animal. There he would starve himself, torture himself and beg for scraps of food from strangers for the rest of his life.

The next night the prince stuck out of the palace again, this time never to return… For years he lived as a bum, a discarded and forgotten remnant of society, the dog **** caked at the bottom of the social pool. And as planned the prince suffered greatly, he suffered through disease, hunger, pain and loneliness and decay, he confronted the brink of death itself, often limited to eating a single nut each day.

A few years went by, and a few more, and then, nothing happened. The prince began to notice that this life of suffering wasn’t all that it was cracked up to be, it wasn’t bringing him the insight he had desired, it wasn’t revealing any deeper mystery of the world or its ultimate purpose. In fact, the prince came to know what the rest of us have always kind of known, suffering totally sucks. And it is not necessarily that meaningful either.

As with being rich, there is no value in suffering when it is done without purpose, and soon the prince came to the conclusion, that his grand idea like his fathers was in fact a ******* terrible idea, and he should probably go do something else instead.

Totally confused the prince cleaned himself up and went and found a big tree by a river, he decided that he would sit under that tree and not get up until he came up with another “grand idea” as the legend goes, the confused prince sat under that tree for 49 days. We won’t delve into the biological viability of sitting in the same spot for 49 days but let’s just say that in that time the prince came to a number of profound realizations.

One of those realizations was this, that life itself IS a form of suffering, the rich suffer because of their riches, the poor suffer because of their poverty, people without a family suffer because they have no family, people with a family suffer because of their family, people who peruse worldly pleasures suffer because of their worldly pleasures, people abstain from worldly pleasures, suffer because of their abstention.

This isn’t to say that all suffering is equal, some suffering is certainly more painful than other suffering, but we all must suffer non-the less.

Years later the prince would build his own philosophy and share it with the world, and this would be its first and central tenant. That pain and loss are inevitable, and we should let go of trying to resist them. The prince would later become known as the Buddha, and in case you haven’t heard of him, he was kind of a big deal.

It is a quote from the book "The subtle art of not giving a ****"
 
I prefer Agent Smith from the Matrix.

Agent Smith said:
"Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world where none suffered, where everyone would be happy? It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed that we lacked the programming language to describe your "perfect world". But I believe that, as a species human beings define their reality through misery and suffering. So the perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
 
So i read a book recently that had this story in it, the quote is a bit of a read, but it is very interesting if you have never heard it.

It can easily be transitioned to explain the problem with today's society, and how the fact that we have so much of everything available so quickly, that is literally crippling ourselves in to a deep depression unless we realise it and address it.
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Thank you for making us aware of the problem and how to solve it. Things will be better now.
 
I remember someone quoting online that she wished all suffering would disappear and everyone could just be happy.

I responded with something like "without suffering how would we recognise happiness, without the dark, would we appreciate the light?"

She went mental at me, calling me all the names under the sun and telling me I was wrong, depressed, I just went and spent some time with my kid and left her in the dark :D
 
Thread title instantly made me think of Whitney Houston's "Didn't we almost have it all," which I've not heard for years.

Cool starry bra.;)
 
Everyone has their own struggle and it's how they work through them that build character and self-worth.

GOATerson at it again:


Having read The Gulag Archipelago it became quite apparent how minor my own struggles are, not that they should be downplayed as there's meaning in them, but oh boy life could have been an actual disaster.
 
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I'm nearing 40 and having my own existential crisis at the moment. My only conclusion is that absolutely everything you do is pointless and futile all you can do is go with the flow. Life is a constant physical and mental struggle so the best thing you can do is take it easy on yourself and help those around you through their struggle.

The dilemma that I still have a problem with is should my wife and I bring another person into this struggle? Is it more humane to give someone a life or to shield them from having to live one. Is the ultimate act of love / sacrifice for your offspring not to put them through the torment of life?
 
The dilemma that I still have a problem with is should my wife and I bring another person into this struggle? Is it more humane to give someone a life or to shield them from having to live one. Is the ultimate act of love / sacrifice for your offspring not to put them through the torment of life?

Say life is a torment to someone who is losing theirs. See what sort of reaction that gets.

Life is about perspective, lose it, and you see nothing.
 
Say life is a torment to someone who is losing theirs. See what sort of reaction that gets.

Life is about perspective, lose it, and you see nothing.

Yes but that person is already alive and we generally have a survival instinct. But it is quite possible to battle cancer and win but then fall into depression. Life can be great, but nature is cruel and there is no escaping it.
 
Did you know the Buddha also ate poo and slept with cadavers?

He stopped at a place called Uruvela. "There," he says, "I thought to myself, truly this is a pleasant spot, and a beautiful forest. Clear flows the river, and pleasant are the bathing-places; all around are meadows and villages." Here he devoted himself to the severest forms of asceticism; for six years he tried the ways of the Yogis who had already appeared on the Indian scene. He lived on seeds and grass, and for one period he fed on dung. Gradually he reduced his food to a grain of rice each day. He wore hair cloth, plucked out his hair and beard for torture's sake, stood for long hours, or lay upon thorns. He let the dust and dirt accumulate upon his body until he looked like an old tree. He frequented a place where human corpses were exposed to be eaten by birds and beasts, and slept among the rotting carcasses.

- The Story of Civilization: Our Oriental Heritage - Will Durant
 
Sounds to be me like you made your mind up.

Is even a case of opinion though? Perspective maybe, but there is nothing that I have said that could be declared untrue. Believe me, I would love to see it a different way but is there anything factual you can offer to counter the reality of our predicament? You can play mind games to cushion the blow but it doesn't change the reality.
 
Is even a case of opinion though? Perspective maybe, but there is nothing that I have said that could be declared untrue. Believe me, I would love to see it a different way but is there anything factual you can offer to counter the reality of our predicament? You can play mind games to cushion the blow but it doesn't change the reality.
You can't have highs without lows. Your post sounds apathetic, and you sound lost. Maybe you have some of your own issues you should be facing up to?
If you dislike your own life enough to not want to give another being the chance at life, that is the issue here.

What does your wife want?
 
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