Air conditioning is sexist

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First we have History is racist.
Then there is James Bond is racist and sexist.

Now we have...


What really? H&S regs state 18C-21C as being 'normal' room temperature. Granted 18C is probably a bit too cool for me if I'm just sitting down, but 21C (which is the top end of normal) is fine. I run the house at 21C when awake and turn it off for bed as colder = more sleep.

The lady in the video said that 22C is too cold. Surely put on another layer? I'm already down to 1 layer when it's 22C.

We get this problem where I work, where one of the girls brings in a parrafin radiator which brings the room to a headache-inducing 27C. When she's not there though, we open the windows, and the girl who sits next to me likes it even colder than I do. Will have the window open when it's minus temps outside :-) Yes it's subjective, but surely 21C is normal when you've lived in UK's climate all of your life.
 
Lol... last bigger office I worked in... it was the girls turning on the AC when it was only 20C to bring it down to 16C which made me freeze my ass off
 
Old story,

Simple answer:

Women can put on a jumper, men can't take off their skin.

Men are required to wear on average more layers in the office type work-place (suit, tie, trousers, belt, shirt, sometimes a vest) etc..
 
I've no problem with this, I'm actually looking forward to sitting in the office in just my boxer shorts when they turn the AC up a notch.
 
Ignoring the sexism aspect of this story for one moment...

A common - and completely retarded - scenario we've all seen: heating is on full throttle on one side of the office and the windows are wide open a few feet away on the other... such wastefulness. All the energy used with complete abandon and sent straight out the window.

Then - and this is where I have some sympathy for the girl in the vid - the energy needlessly wasted super chilling the office to "cool" in the middle of summer. It's summer... we should be wearing less not trying to recreate winter.

So to some extent she's right ... inflexibility is causing us to waste vast amounts of energy heating and cooling areas incredibly inefficiently.

This is a problem that's bigger than sexism... it's a problem of being utterly irresponsible with our energy usage.
 
Men are required to wear on average more layers in the office type work-place (suit, tie, trousers, belt, shirt, sometimes a vest) etc..
And it's idiotic in hot weather, and we should challenge this requirement because it costs vast amounts of energy to cool the office space, only to heat back up with all those layers. Ridiculous.
 
It doesn't matter what the weather conditions are or what the ambient temperature is.

Put two or three females together and it will be less than five minutes before one of them says "Is it me, or is it cold in here?"

FACT.
 
Well if a guy can wear shorts and a t-shirt then fair enough but if they're restricted to trousers (even in summer) and a proper shirt etc.. (perhaps even a tie in some cases) then they're not really about to adjust.

She talks about common sense, well common sense is perhaps her brining in a jumper.
 
Well if a guy can wear shorts and a t-shirt then fair enough but if they're restricted to trousers (even in summer) and a proper shirt etc.. (perhaps even a tie in some cases) then they're not really about to adjust.

She talks about common sense, well common sense is perhaps her brining in a jumper.
How is that common sense from an environmental and energy use standpoint?

It's hot outside so you use AC to lower the temperature. But you want men to wear a full suit. So you have to lower the temperature yet further so they can wear lots of layers and not over-heat. Meanwhlie, the women who aren't over-dressed for the outside conditions now have to wear more layers to be comfortable.

Where is common sense in this? It's wasteful. It's literally ****ing energy away for vanity. Because forcing men to wear suits all year round is just corporate vanity. It's madness.
 
How is that common sense from an environmental and energy use standpoint?

???

Because it uses less energy, if she turns up the heat instead of brining in a jumper then it will generally use more energy. There aren't many days in the UK where the air con is cooling having to work hard to cool the office below 22 degrees vs working hard to warm the office up to 22 degrees.
 
Didn't people used to live in caves? Presumably some were women?
Yes, and they were probably more sensitive to temperature then as well.

Women sense differences in temperature more than men. This is known. Same as they can see more colours. Same as men are stronger. Same as all manner of things.
 
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Because it uses less energy, if she turns up the heat instead of brining in a jumper then it will generally use more energy. There aren't many days in the UK where the air con is cooling having to work hard to cool the office below 22 degrees vs working hard to warm the office up to 22 degrees.
You didn't read the post or listen to the video.

It's not common sense when the indoor temperature is being cooled down so that winter clothes can be worn in comfort, whilst outside it's 30 degrees.

That's not any form of common sense that I'm familiar with.
 
It's not common sense when the indoor temperature is being cooled down so that winter clothes can be worn in comfort, whilst outside it's 30 degrees.

That's not any form of common sense that I'm familiar with.

Well why not use some common sense yourself and consider how often it is 30 degrees outside in the UK... The post and the paper are simply talking about temperature differences and for a UK office the air-conditioning is mostly going to be bringing the temperature up not down. You seem to have got your knickers in a twist because the presenter gave an example of a man on a summer day.
 
Christ if this is what it has come to it's time to leave Earth.

The use of freezing even grinds my gears. Do they see ice hanging from the walls! No? Then STFU

I have this issue in work as the building I am in is mostly women and they all feel just about right at 27c and this isn't a joke. I am sitting there sweating my ass off at my own desk.
 
Well why not use some common sense yourself and consider how often it is 30 degrees outside in the UK... The post and the paper are simply talking about temperature differences and for a UK office the air-conditioning is mostly going to be bringing the temperature up not down. You seem to have got your knickers in a twist because the presenter gave an example of a man on a summer day.
I've worked in office where the room is cold and it's been glorious outside.

Literally the AC is running non-stop and it's cold. And due to the fact that the offices are generally glass walled you know the AC is working hard. Without it the room would heat up due to all the glass.

I've worked in various offices and this isn't uncommon. Have you never worked in such a place? I'm genuinely surprised if you think I'm just reacting to the video. All my working life has been in offices.
 
I've worked in office where the room is cold and it's been glorious outside.
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I've worked in various offices and this isn't uncommon. Have you never worked in such a place? I'm genuinely surprised if you think I'm just reacting to the video. All my working life has been in offices.

I have too, it is called the UK summer and it last for about 2 weeks a year... again we live in the UK, maybe Cornwall is a bit hotter but it is still the UK, the vast majority of the time the aircon is not brining the temperature down relative to the outside.

edit - here you go, for illustration purposes, even in summer the average temp doesn't exceed 22 degrees... so we're not talking about many days relative to those where the temp needs to rise to maintain 22 degrees indoors

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