Used Car - Vectra VXR, Flame coat ready.

£15k over 5 years for an already 8 year old Insignia?

Is he OK in the head? This rivals the carcraft Clio for idiocy!
 
I know he's gunna do the right thing.


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Did you used to own a ST220 op? I don’t see why you would even consider a Vectra VXR for literally double the price and probably double the running costs. They are quite nice looking cars and I considered one myself about 3 years back when I seen the Top Gear episode of it spanking the 220 and 6 MPS in the drag race but that car they used was remapped so it’s not as impressive standard and having spent some time reading up on them on the Vectra Forums I soon changed my mind and went for the 220. Vectra owners seem to be the most deluded fanboys I’ve ever seen and seems to enjoy spending money fixing problem after problem.
For your budget and requirements you are pretty limited if you want power and fun then Focus ST 5 door or Leon Cupra and if you want quick but more refined then Octavia VRS, mk4 Mondeo 2.5T Titanium X or Volvo V50 R estate with the T5 in. That’s pretty much it if your discounting saloons
 
S3: boring
S4: boring
335i/D: estate potentially cripple you but good family motor and quick
Focus ST: good motor and affordable
XJ XJR: will cripple you but santapod
Lancer Ralliart: boring but good quickish family car
RS Megane: (newer shape) what i would pick if i was you and 5 doors wasn't necessary
WRX: wishin you just got a sti
STI Spec D: another good choice and seem to be cheaper than the rest, prob have to have @L0rdMike on speed dial
GTI: Boring

My opinion of course.
Agreed apart from the megane, because its french. xjr or sti is best bet :p or something with t5 engine lolvo or ford
 
A decent XJR won’t cripple you at all, but it doesn’t really sound like the sort of thing you’re looking for.
 
Agreed apart from the megane, because its french. xjr or sti is best bet :p or something with t5 engine lolvo or ford

Ah but he does like his Leon so should love the RS Megane. I would have one in an heartbeat if i had a 7-8k budget and wanted something fast and capable and to go to track days with.
 
Did you used to own a ST220 op?

No I used to own a st derv. It was great until I slid it into a kerb in the winter months and it needed more repair then the car was worth. It was also getting on a bit so I ended up selling it.

A decent XJR won’t cripple you at all, but it doesn’t really sound like the sort of thing you’re looking for.

Again I love the look of these but it's not a car I would personally want. Beautiful cars by all means.

U seen how bad the vectra vxr is yet? @Vita

Well, I just got back and to say I'm not impressed is an understatement. I'd be a mad man to part with anything for one of those.

The car it's self was remapped but everything else was standard. Yet it's quick in a straight line but that's by me looking at the Speedo. It didn't feel the 300bhp or whatever it was, I expected it to push me back in the seat like I've been punched. They do sound decent I'll give it that.

Handling was very urm how can I explain this, I think the correct choice of word should be 'poor'. It didn't feel tight, maybe because I'm used to my small Leon in size but even my BMW on coilovers felt more planted going round corners then that thing. It could have been due to the tyres or another factor. This made me realise a little that I actually prefer a small hatch or a saloon rather then a large hatchback. Not sure what it is but maybe it was with this particular car that it felt a tad large?

The braking is ok but nothing to shout about.

Gearbox seemed fine as did clutch so no complaints there.

Suspension ride is firm pressing some button made it firmer which kind of reminded me what the civic type r felt like which I hated because the suspension broke my back. Going round a corner with it firmer did nothing for it to not understeer. This was one of my arguments about how owners keep saying jezza pulled the fuse or whatever when he did the review for the IDs+ or whatever it's called. There is simply far too much power for the chassis to nail down on to the road on this car.

Like rybo said. Big engine throw that in and forget everything else.

The seats reminded me of the optional recaro st seats I had in my Mondeo. They were nice but the rest of the interior is a pile of poo. I simply could not live with that for 2-3 years. I think if bought that home my missus would leave me.

No wonder the ones I've been watching on eBay are not selling.

The only thing I liked was the size of the boot in all honesty. I thought it was spacious and practical in that sense.

Though no, I do not want to buy one. Even though the straight line speed was cool but a cheaper Subaru would give a bigger thrill. I'm glad I asked on here. The owners talk nonsense, and I do not want to sit in another vectra again.

So yes. In short I will leave that idea.

I'm going to have a deep think about what cars I can look at. I think I will have to expand my horizons a little as my criteria of practicality does limit my choice by a fair margin. Again family planning and such leaves me limited.

In all honesty as much as I like my MK2 Leon. I could go to the cupra model. The reason I am not is because I simply want something different and with a little more creature comforts. The Leon MK2 interior is basic at best though I didn't buy it for its interior.

I tried and tested golf mk5 r32 and I said I didn't find them worth their price. Though I keep looking at them again and again. I keep remembering how they sounded and even though some of them were a little rough they still went well and the grip was impressive. I could see myself with one of those but, the price of car puts me off. Still I felt my self smiling when I drove those against the vectra where I thought why am I doing this? This isn't the meaning of life.

I'm actually very gutted as I expected it to amaze me and it hasn't. I kept telling myself that it may deliver a surprise and I'd think otherwise but no.

This is what acme must feel like.
 
Every Vauxhall I've driven had terrible handling. Sticking a powerful engine in one just made it worse.

Pretty much this. Every corsa and Astra I've driven had lifeless steering, a notchy gearbox and understeered at the slightest hint of a corner. I can't imagine fitting a larger more powerful engine world have improved things.

I've no experience of recent models though to be fair as past ones have put me off the brand completely. Safer sticking with something Japanese or German IMO. I wouldn't say it was snobiness either as every Ford car I've driven has been great.

I'm surprised Vauxhall are still in business given how bad their cars used to be!
 
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