New build £2k budget for box

Teknodeamon · 28 Jan 2018 at 01:39

Hi,

Just wanted your opinions please, veering towards 8700k, so need, cooler, mobo, ram, pci-x ssd, PSU and case recommendations. Upgrading from 2500 sandybridge, geforce 770gtx, 16gb ram.

Using it on a 40 inch philips monitor, gaming and crypto mining in idle time.

Thank you!

orbitalwalsh · 28 Jan 2018 at 04:03

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM= £319.99
1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £229.99
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080Ti Gaming OC 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £839.99
1 x Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 Intel Z370 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £224.99
1 x Samsung 960 EVO Polaris 500GB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £239.99
1 x Seasonic Focus Plus 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £94.99
1 x be quiet! Dark Base 700 RGB Midi Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass= £176.99
1 x be quiet! Silent Loop Superior Liquid CPU Cooler - 360mm= £134.99
3 x Phanteks Halos 120mm RGB LED Fan Frame - Black= £9.95
1 x Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 1 Gramm= £4.99

Total: £2,312.06 (includes shipping: £15.30)

New, if you didn't want to find second hand i7 K. Also note, Asus doing cash back on boards

tamzzy · 28 Jan 2018 at 05:39

cheaper option, in budget

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM= £319.99
1 x Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming Intel Z370 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £158.99
1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £229.99
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080Ti Gaming OC 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £839.99
1 x Antec EarthWatts Gold Pro 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £79.99
1 x Samsung SM961 Polaris 512GB M.2-2280 PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £199.99
1 x Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 240 AIO CPU Cooler= £42.95
1 x Phanteks Eclipse P300 Glass Midi Tower Case - Black= £54.95
1 x Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 1 Gramm= £4.99

Total: £1,945.03 (includes shipping: £13.20)

orbitalwalsh · 28 Jan 2018 at 05:56

Ah yes, I went over in style

but tamz on is just as solid . You won't notice the difference using the SM961 NVMe over consumer 960 version

If you can stretch over budget by £10. 280mm AIO

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...cpu-cooler-280mm-cw-9060026-ww-hs-036-cs.html

8700k without Delid is a hot chip, specially if you try your luck at 4.9ghz and above

tamzzy · 28 Jan 2018 at 05:57

orbitalwalsh said:
SM961 NVMe over consumer 960 version

sm 961 is a 960 pro! and its £40 cheaper than the 960 evo to boot! with 12gb extra space, no brainer really

orbitalwalsh · 28 Jan 2018 at 06:01

tamzzy said:
sm 961 is a 960 pro! and its £40 cheaper than the 960 evo to boot! with 12gb extra space, no brainer really

Once you flash it then yeah, proper 960 EVO

tamzzy · 28 Jan 2018 at 06:03

orbitalwalsh said:
960 EVO

nah mate, the pm961 is the evo - tlc nand
sm961 is the pro - mlc nand

haha, they changed it compared to the 951 series.
looks like the sm961 is inbetween the 960 evo and pro :s

edit (credit fudzilla):

orbitalwalsh · 28 Jan 2018 at 06:13

tamzzy said:
nah mate, the pm961 is the evo - tlc nand
sm961 is the pro - mlc nand

haha, they changed it compared to the 951 series.
looks like the sm961 is inbetween the 960 evo and pro :s

Sweet even better! Least I haven't bricked any of the drives with fir.ware updates

tamzzy · 28 Jan 2018 at 06:15

orbitalwalsh said:
bricked any of the drives with fir.ware updates

lol. got pretty lucky there, considering each drive uses different types of nand!

orbitalwalsh · 28 Jan 2018 at 06:24

tamzzy said:
lol. got pretty lucky there, considering each drive uses different types of nand!

To be honest it's not worth it for any issues that could pop up . Just read on some forums long ago people piping in Low Storage Evo/pro and Sm/pm high volumes in second m.2 and updating drivers and firmware and works for both as system is tricked into thinking your just doing the one drive but does the two .
But yeah, really no need

tamzzy · 28 Jan 2018 at 06:27

if it works, don't try and fix it - certainly springs into mind lol

orbitalwalsh · 28 Jan 2018 at 06:42

tamzzy said:
if it works, don't try and fix it - certainly springs into mind lol

Yeah, it was just one of those things of being forced to use Intel NVMe drivers for non 960 drives. Samsung's own does much better . But again, for gaming doesn't make much difference

Don't find to much difference between sata3 and NVMe personally when gaming.
Though running 3D Mark, damn that make life quicker haha

New 960 SATA 3 drives do look nice though along with Intel 700 series and the quad layer nand

tamzzy · 28 Jan 2018 at 06:55

orbitalwalsh said:
New 960 SATA 3 drives do look nice though along with Intel 700 series and the quad layer nand

they do indeed, and the mx500 too

Teknodeamon · 29 Jan 2018 at 12:36

Wow have I been out the game that long, am I read that right? Flashing SSD's to unlock more space? Hahah Cheers for the top two quotes. Whats the status on PSU's nowadays? Not worth going to 1000W? Everything seems to be getting more power hungry.

Teknodeamon · 29 Jan 2018 at 14:57

Hmm,

Someone is offering me brand new:

Ryzen 1800x
stock cpu cooler.
Asus x370 pro
32GB Kingston Hyperx 2400mhz memory
WD 4.0TB HDD
WD 512GB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe SSD
Windows 10
2 x Asus Turbo GTX 1080Ti 11GB
FSP 1000W PSU
Some weird looking case.

2400 delivered, need to build myself.

I want to buy a case from OCUK and a watercooler, but is the above deal good? Not the 8700K or threadripper I had hoped for, but the price seems too good?

lee32uk · 29 Jan 2018 at 15:22

Teknodeamon said:
Hmm,

Someone is offering me brand new:

Ryzen 1800x
stock cpu cooler.
Asus x370 pro
32GB Kingston Hyperx 2400mhz memory
WD 4.0TB HDD
WD 512GB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe SSD
Windows 10
2 x Asus Turbo GTX 1080Ti 11GB
FSP 1000W PSU
Some weird looking case.

2400 delivered, need to build myself.

I want to buy a case from OCUK and a watercooler, but is the above deal good? Not the 8700K or threadripper I had hoped for, but the price seems too good?

We can't advise on price checks outside the members market.

There is no stock cooler with the 1800X. Only the R7 1700 on the 8 core cpu's has a stock cooler.

No need for 32GB Ram. Also 2400MHz is too slow for Ryzen. You really want 3000MHz and above for best performance.

Those Asus Turbo cards are loud and run hot. I wouldn't fancy having two of them in SLI.

That psu could be good or bad as FSP can be a mixed bag.

orbitalwalsh · 29 Jan 2018 at 15:32

should only need one 1080Ti really, unless your doing GPU rendering ?
There's water blocks for that card but asus dont support cooler removal and often use warranty stickers on screws

Teknodeamon · 29 Jan 2018 at 15:33

lee32uk said:
We can't advise on price checks outside the members market.

There is no stock cooler with the 1800X. Only the R7 1700 on the 8 core cpu's has a stock cooler.

No need for 32GB Ram. Also 2400MHz is too slow for Ryzen. You really want 3000MHz and above for best performance.

Those Asus Turbo cards are loud and run hot. I wouldn't fancy having two of them in SLI.

That psu could be good or bad as FSP can be a mixed bag.

Thanks Lee.

The price of those gfx cards, the cpu and hard drives comes to around £2400 everywhere, so will most likely use the extra gfx card, memory in my old computer (i5 2500k) giving me a separate crypto miner.

What cooler and memory would you recommend from OCUK for the 1800x? Is there that much of a difference between 2400 and 3000mhz ram?

Cheers.

lee32uk · 30 Jan 2018 at 11:51

Teknodeamon said:
Thanks Lee.

The price of those gfx cards, the cpu and hard drives comes to around £2400 everywhere, so will most likely use the extra gfx card, memory in my old computer (i5 2500k) giving me a separate crypto miner.

What cooler and memory would you recommend from OCUK for the 1800x? Is there that much of a difference between 2400 and 3000mhz ram?

Cheers.

It would depend on what would fit in the case, and how much you wanted to spend. Something as cheap as a Cryorig H7 would be fine for Ryzen.

Yes faster Ram does make a difference for Ryzen. I would get something like the 8pack kit below as it has low timings as well. The Cryorig H7 I mentioned above will also be fine with this ram as it doesn't block any ram slots on the board.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £229.99

Total: £238.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)