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The Gender Pay Gap at Uber
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Yeah, because the gap they’re trying to close is the 28.6% one or whatever which takes into account barely any aspect of a persons role.
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No... what many are arguing is that it already is 0, or at least very close to 0, if you take into account varying factors that influence job type, skill level, hours worked, effort expended and the rest of the very wide spectrum of factors to consider.
They very sentiment that two people of different genders with varying experience, effort and other factors should be paid the same is incredibly sexist in itself and the social uproar around it is being skewed by people mis-representing figures out of context to people who are not smart enough to know how numbers work.
You can have 2 identically skilled workers doing the same role, one of each gender, and they are paid different amounts because one is worth more than the other... in some cases that may be the man, in other cases that may be the woman.
Gender should be taken out of it completely, pay people based on their merit and value to the business... don't blindly pay people the same just because of a sexist argument.
In your opinion do you think that the pay gap is mostly/entirely caused by misogyny, and nothing to do with women's preferences, characteristics or behaviours?
Are there really no differences between men and women, apart from oppression?
There isn’t a pay gap, my post was about the feminists who go on Good Morning Britain or whatever and scream the 28.6% figure.
Of course it matters, if you don't understand what causes the issue you can't fix it.
I'd prefer my daughter to grow up in a world where she's not at a financial disadvantage simply because she's a woman. I can't see it happening though.
This whole thing is getting a bit ridiculous isn't it? "I haz norks can haz £300k like da man pls k tnx"
No, it's wrong. I couldn't care less what sexual orientation is, pay should be based on role, productivity, performance, results, attendance, etc. You're telling me that someone who's been in their role for 20 years should earn the same as someone who started a month ago purely because that person is of the opposite sex? What the actual bawsaq? Whilst I'm certainly not against wimminz earning the same as the blokes or vice versa, it should be on equal terms, not just because she's a woman or he's a man.
People need to get a grip.
No, it's wrong. I couldn't care less what sexual orientation is, pay should be based on role, productivity, performance, results, attendance, etc. You're telling me that someone who's been in their role for 20 years should earn the same as someone who started a month ago purely because that person is of the opposite sex? What the actual bawsaq? Whilst I'm certainly not against wimminz earning the same as the blokes or vice versa, it should be on equal terms, not just because she's a woman or he's a man.
People need to get a grip.
That isn't what's happening/is going to happen. The very way the govt forces employers to report on their "pay gap" as a headline figure, ensures that this will continue to attract media attention and societal pressure, until the "pay gap" is closed entirely.
Take airlines. Their current "defence" is that most pilots are male and most cabin crew female, hence their headline figure for pay gap is huge (>50%).
This won't wash for long. They will now start to face pressure to attract more female pilots, which will mean they will need to favour female applicants. They will have to try to recruit male cabin crew. This will happen until the promised land is reached.
This headline figure for overall pay gap will drive many companies to actively favour women until the "gap" is closed. You can see it plain as day.
I don't believe the pay gap will ever be 0, and probably shouldn't be.
While I'm all for equality of opportunity, ultimately no amount of legislation or desire is going to change the fact, any time soon at least, that women have wombs.
That one very basic fact, even if all other factors were equal, means women will tend to take career breaks more often than men. And that, quite rightly, will impact on average pay.
While I'm all for equality of opportunity, ultimately no amount of legislation or desire is going to change the fact, any time soon at least, that women have wombs.
That one very basic fact, even if all other factors were equal, means women will tend to take career breaks more often than men. And that, quite rightly, will impact on average pay.
Better hope she's pretty then:
https://www.payscale.com/career-news/2012/03/beauty-and-salary
And tall:
https://www.theguardian.com/science...-height-and-womens-weight-drive-earning-power
Also it's important for her that you earn a lot of money on average:
http://www.businessinsider.com/parents-determine-child-success-income-inequality-2014-1?IR=T
But yes you just focus on the gender thing
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Sooooo what you're saying is... you think lobsters should get the vote?
Sooooo what you're saying is... men need to drive faster?
(been saving that one til I unleashed the lobster... feels better now).
Then you don't believe men and women are of equal value to society?
(I'm being Devil's advocate, and a ****, at the same time)
Maybe we stop defining reward purely in economic terms, or at least looking at only one part of the equation (financial remuneration). Perhaps women have other advantages bestowed upon them in our western society that can't be measured in terms of earnings potential.
For example, how the courts will always favour the woman when it comes to divorce settlements and custody battles.
Eg 2, how men must shoulder the burden of approaching the woman, and not vice versa.
Ah, the bigger picture. I thought this was frowned upon here? Are we allowed to bring logic and sense in to these debates?
I try not to, anyhow.
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Yes, it's quite infuriating.
Men tend to favour engineering & technical roles... which is a society that's developing means it will attract a higher level of pay as the reward for the investment is higher.
Women tend to favour roles in the textile industries... which generally garners a lower level of pay than the above for similar reasons, but inverted.
It doesn't mean they're being forced into those roles or stereotyped into those roles.
People should be allowed to choose the direction they go in and they already do.
Giving a lesser-skilled woman an techy job over a higher-skilled man just to meet some idealistic quota that's not based in realism is wrong, it's unfair to the man in that case.
Using the same comparison, giving the lesser-skilled man the textile job over a higher-skilled woman just to meet a similar quota is unfair to the woman.
Militant-leftist ideology is insane.
And until recently... I thought I was left-wing... found out I'm somewhere nearer the middle in my views.
Fair representation is what is needed, not blanket extreme left-wing rule.
I'm with you on a lot of that.
Men, for example, have much higher suicide rates, I don't want equality for my daughter in that regard!
And yes, judging your worth or success purely on financial achievement is probably wrong and not healthy for society.
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Agree with you on that one, not going to troll you on it...
Question time, it's a dim **** special tonight. (though that's pretty standard)
One woman complain that nurses didn't get paid well (standard), well I'm sure they get paid more than the average warehouse workers. Band 5 Nurse lowest level of fully qualified start from £11.32-£14.70 per hour.
It seems they want a communist state where everyone get paid the same, not matter what skill.
One woman complain that nurses didn't get paid well (standard), well I'm sure they get paid more than the average warehouse workers. Band 5 Nurse lowest level of fully qualified start from £11.32-£14.70 per hour.
It seems they want a communist state where everyone get paid the same, not matter what skill.
Can't you get drunk and argue with everyone again please? That's much more entertaining.