2 new builds for myself & a mate.

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I've been converting the attic over the last few weeks for our home office (gaming room for me really :D) and it will be done hopefully in a couple more weeks. I've been planning to build my own rig as I wanted the challenge and just fancy it. I've changed a few PC components in the past so with a video I'm sure I could manage a self build.

Anyway, the budget is around £1000-£1200 and I need everything except keyboard/mouse/GPU/windows (I saw the offer on the GPU section so bought a gigabyte 1060 for £220, thank you Overclockers). I reckon it's best to keep it at 1080p rather than 1440p? Not totally sure. I would like a strong CPU/mobo so I can upgrade the GPU in the future, obviously I'd spend a bit more. I prefer ryzen from what I've researched and think a 1600 looks pretty decent.

Also I've seen that Overclockers have a bit of a discount on some RAM atm for £169, cheapest I've seen it so worth picking up now? Will that be alright for my system?

Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit



Now for the second for my mate, he was looking at a system on Amazon so I'd like to show him what sort of thing he could build himself. I thought maybe he could use the ryzen CPU with on board graphics for a few months until he saved a bit more for a decent GPU, then it would last him longer that way. He needs everything except keyboard/mouse/monitor/windows.

I've been lurking on the forums for a few weeks, you guys seem very knowledgeable so thanks in advance for your help!
 
 
 
@dizzy078

Ryzen 1700- last a while ;)
B350 Gaming 3 , overclock the same as the MSI- and MSI didn't have the best run with Ryzen this time around. Also UK RMA and rep support on here, MSI lack the above .
25" G-sync screen, your gtx 1060 isn't going to drive 240hz but future cards should give it a good bash !

PSU is the best on the market pretty much, 10 years warranty too


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,184.59 (includes shipping: £14.70)
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Lacks flair but gets the job done well.

Vega APU above sounds sweet fair play . But still under gtx 1050 Ti level and might as well get an Xbox X one at the rate of GPUS

Just saw above , 144hz non G-sync . Another good alt as Nvidia charge over the top for their sync tech, although lower end cards tend to need it more then high end

Also the above 3000hz for £169= better deal. Was to lazy to edit the basket above .haha

Best I could do for friends build


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £591.55 (includes shipping: £11.70)


Another view on above, dropping PSU quality but allows Ryzen 1400- 4 cores 8 threads over Ryzen 1200 4 cores and 4 threads


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £619.55 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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Nice! Thank you both. I better buy a Ryzen 7 then! Might as well get a 1700x for an extra tenner? Regarding monitors, I'm lacking in knowledge but is the Acer 240hz g sync a beast? I take it 1440p is out of budget or not worth the extra money?

Will show my mate those builds tomorrow, ta. I think he's better off with the vega, then spend 200-300 on a GPU a bit later. He will probably catch up on old games first for a couple of months anyway.
 
The 1700 comes with a free cpu cooler which handles overclocking to 3.7ghz fine. The 1700x comes without cpu cooler.

The other benefit of am4 is amd are supporting it for the two future generations of Ryzen, meaning at a later date your mate can fit a better cpu as well as a better Gpu.
 
dizzy078 said:
Nice! Thank you both. I better buy a Ryzen 7 then! Might as well get a 1700x for an extra tenner? Regarding monitors, I'm lacking in knowledge but is the Acer 240hz g sync a beast? I take it 1440p is out of budget or not worth the extra money?

Will show my mate those builds tomorrow, ta. I think he's better off with the vega, then spend 200-300 on a GPU a bit later. He will probably catch up on old games first for a couple of months anyway.
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If you are not doing any video editing/rendering or twitch streaming etc then the R5 1600 will do fine for a gaming pc. Saves £90 to spend on other areas.
 
rig for you: could probably change 16gb for 32gb and keep in budget depending on price(i didnt look)

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,063.13 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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for your mate: to step it up from an APU option still keeping in budget, quad core processor, great all round 1050ti, great quality psu, 1tb hard drive, certainly be a cracking computer for £600 that is of brand new parts.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £592.58 (includes shipping: £11.70)



i realised i forgot the monitor, can alter to fit one in or for the £100 change you can get nice fancy used over 22" screen.​
 
4K8KW10 said:
Better to stay with Vega APU and in the next generations to upgrade with a proper graphics card, not that slow GTX 1050 Ti.
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How do you figure that out Einstein ? An APU is going to be worse for gaming on than even a 1050 ti.

Your spec above has a terrible motherboard and an unnecessary SSD for a £600 budget.
 
lee32uk said:
How do you figure
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Just listening to the wise words of the OP, and not to the your trolling !

dizzy078 said:
I thought maybe he could use the ryzen CPU with on board graphics for a few months until he saved a bit more for a decent GPU, then it would last him longer that way.
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dizzy078 said:
Will show my mate those builds tomorrow, ta. I think he's better off with the vega, then spend 200-300 on a GPU a bit later. He will probably catch up on old games first for a couple of months anyway.
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GTX 1050 Ti is a crappy graphics card anyway. I wouldn't buy it.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Just listening to the wise words of the OP, and not to the your trolling !
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How am I trolling ? If the op's mate has a 1050 ti from the off then he will have a better gaming experience. If in a few months he wants a better gpu then he can sell the 1050 ti and get a new gpu.

I guess the 1050 ti is poor because it isn't AMD ? :rolleyes:
 
4K8KW10 said:
Just listening to the wise words of the OP, and not to the your trolling !





GTX 1050 Ti is a crappy graphics card anyway. I wouldn't buy it.
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try reading the heading above my build before criticising others, i said to step it up from an APU, the new ones seem good, but its early days still and we know nothing of the games to be played and we already know the 1050ti is proven to be a good all rounder on a budget and in case you forgot to read what you quoted, the OP stated 'decent' which the 1050ti is, fact of the matter is i managed to make a system with a dedicated gpu for under the budget and you couldnt even do that using the APU.
 
im with @ExoMale and @lee32uk on this one, why i also spec'd a gtx 1050ti -

dont get me wrong , 2400g is a cracking chip and has its many many uses but Friend might as well pick up an Xbox One X instead of Vega 11 . GTX 1050ti will allow least a good taster of PC Gaming and why it is worth riding out the mining storm in the future . Vega 11 is just under GTX 1030 level .
Intels Vega chip- now that would have been a damn good option - but that will never come to desktop motherboards - i believe that sits at RX 560 Levels .

I believe the gtx 1050ti overtook gtx 750ti on steam hardware for must used GPU? or comes damn close which shows how good the chip is .

RX 560 could have slotted in nicely in builds but mining has driven that up slightly to :(
 
orbitalwalsh said:
im with @ExoMale and @lee32uk on this one, why i also spec'd a gtx 1050ti -

dont get me wrong , 2400g is a cracking chip and has its many many uses but Friend might as well pick up an Xbox One X instead of Vega 11 . GTX 1050ti will allow least a good taster of PC Gaming and why it is worth riding out the mining storm in the future . Vega 11 is just under GTX 1030 level .
Intels Vega chip- now that would have been a damn good option - but that will never come to desktop motherboards - i believe that sits at RX 560 Levels .

I believe the gtx 1050ti overtook gtx 750ti on steam hardware for must used GPU? or comes damn close which shows how good the chip is .

RX 560 could have slotted in nicely in builds but mining has driven that up slightly to :(
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even a 1050 would do if the APU isnt better than a 1030 which is weaker than the 1050 range nevermind a 1050ti, only reason i didnt look at amd was because drivers usually better on nvidia and some games run better off them.

@4K8KW10 , dont share the same assumption as an OP for a friends build unless the friend has made those requests, nice of the OP to suggest, but id be disappointed if my friend didnt use my budget the best it could be just to settle on something, got to think outside the box.
 
ExoMale said:
even a 1050 would do if the APU isnt better than a 1030 which is weaker than the 1050 range nevermind a 1050ti, only reason i didnt look at amd was because drivers usually better on nvidia and some games run better off them.

@4K8KW10 , dont share the same assumption as an OP for a friends build unless the friend has made those requests, nice of the OP to suggest, but id be disappointed if my friend didnt use my budget the best it could be just to settle on something, got to think outside the box.
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dont think theres any stock of 560

well one- still had its price bumped up

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with using amd and nvidia recently- both drivers just as good as each other . Vega 56 sometimes mashing 1070ti in DX12 games and verse versa with DX11

such a shame, gtx 1060 3gb would have made it in along with 16gb of ram this time last year :(
 
The OP wants a VEGA APU now and when next-gen videocards are released, they will probably take something like GTX 2060 or GTX 2070 or the same level of performance from the RX 580 replacement.

No need to buy crappy GTX 1050 Ti, yes, it is crappy because we all know Nvidia give inferior user experience regarding image quality, etc, and then sell it at a loss.
 
4K8KW10 said:
The OP wants a VEGA APU now and when next-gen videocards are released, they will probably take something like GTX 2060 or GTX 2070 or the same level of performance from the RX 580 replacement.

No need to buy crappy GTX 1050 Ti, yes, it is crappy because we all know Nvidia give inferior user experience regarding image quality, etc, and then sell it at a loss.
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careful with words- also see no mention of next gen- just saving up - H2 is still a fair bit away , managed to wrangle that piece of info when rumors ballooned everywhere of its going to be "announced soon" and "April launch" - I prob wont get a Week number till its almost on top of us

I thought maybe he could use the ryzen CPU with on board graphics for a few months until he saved a bit more for a decent GPU
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Looking to see different view points- suggestions - reason - not GTX 1050 Ti is pants though its volume in sales are very impressive - also insults tens of thousands of owners of said card who game on it just fine within their means

I've been lurking on the forums for a few weeks, you guys seem very knowledgeable so thanks in advance for your help
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only problem is , your left with a core thats not quite on the level of Ryzen 1600 for a little bit more, and Ryzen+ in April, with 2600 leakes being 200hz increase over 1600 at default speeds. Lower cashe can hurt gaming performance
 
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