I've been away for a while, spec me a new PC please.

JaseUK

JaseUK

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Hi,
I've been out of the PC gaming scene for a couple of years now as I thought my Xbox One console would suffice. Little did I know how much I would miss gaming on a PC therefore I intend to re-build another PC.

The PC will be situated in my living room but I am not looking for anything top end or watercooled. I play mmo type games mainly.

I like the idea of going back to a 27" sized monitor (24" minimum) preferably at 1440p res.

I need the whole mashings - case, motherboard, cpu, gpu, ram, psu etc. including wired keyboard (illuminated).

Budget is sort of around £800 give or take a little.

Spec me up please...
 
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JaseUK said:
Hi,
I've been out of the PC gaming scene for a couple of years now as I thought my Xbox One console would suffice. Little did I know how much I would miss gaming on a PC therefore I intend to re-build another PC.

The PC will be situated in my living room but I am not looking for anything top end or watercooled. I play mmo type games mainly.

I like the idea of going back to a 27" sized monitor (24" minimum) preferably at 1440p res.

I need the whole mashings - case, motherboard, cpu, gpu, ram, psu etc. including wired keyboard (illuminated).

Budget is sort of around £800 give or take a little.

Spec me up please...
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to play 1440p your looking at gtx 1070 which costs a bomb at the moment and looking at £1k and just over for a system - even pre-built over custom built

example of pre-builds from OCUK- spec to gtx 1070 and tops at £1k

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...neration-3.6ghz-quad-core-fs-1c5-og.html#t=e2
 
Just to get the ball rolling what do you think? A little over budget I know.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,102.83 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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JaseUK said:
Just to get the ball rolling what do you think? A little over budget I know.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,102.83 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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More powerful GPU which has greater effect on fps , also, board can take future Ryzen chips unlike Intel's


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,080.54 (includes shipping: £14.70)


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Gigabyte have UK RMA and string reo support which wins a lot over on here, GPu was cheapest in class and should drive ultra 1080p 60fps and above​
 
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Ok after speaking with the wife it appears my budget will have to be reduced. £550 is the new budget (or there abouts). yikes :eek:
 
orbitalwalsh said:
More powerful GPU which has greater effect on fps , also, board can take future Ryzen chips unlike Intel's


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,080.54 (includes shipping: £14.70)


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Gigabyte have UK RMA and string reo support which wins a lot over on here, GPu was cheapest in class and should drive ultra 1080p 60fps and above​
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thanks but the gpu may be a bit over budget.
 
 
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JaseUK said:
Ok new basket given new budget of approx. £550

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £538.94 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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Gigabyte and Asus boards mainly favoured on here for Ryzen
you also want dual channel over single channel ( 2 sticks and not 1)

dropped to ryzen 1200 4 core 4 threads instead of 1400's 4/8 - mainly due to using more powerful GTX 1060 and a reason to choose PC on "4k" consoles which can match 1050ti or better it .
thing is with the ryzen board, zen+ and zen2 chips can be used on it so has a longer life span then intel, finding you need a bit more CPU power- then drop in a new AM4 chip down the line :)

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £582.90 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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orbitalwalsh said:
Gigabyte and Asus boards mainly favoured on here for Ryzen
you also want dual channel over single channel ( 2 sticks and not 1)

dropped to ryzen 1200 4 core 4 threads instead of 1400's 4/8 - mainly due to using more powerful GTX 1060 and a reason to choose PC on "4k" consoles which can match 1050ti or better it .
thing is with the ryzen board, zen+ and zen2 chips can be used on it so has a longer life span then intel, finding you need a bit more CPU power- then drop in a new AM4 chip down the line :)

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £582.90 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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Thanks for this and I appreciate the time you've taken to help me out.
Is there a reason you use a micro ATX board as opposed to ATX?
 
JaseUK said:
Thanks for this and I appreciate the time you've taken to help me out.
Is there a reason you use a micro ATX board as opposed to ATX?
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pretty much the same as its ATX boarder , just lacks the RGB stuff and mainly was cheaper! unless you need to add a load of GPUs or extra card devices , then mATX isn't a bad format :D
little bit smaller to :D

just in a ATX case as i was provided with it - ryzen 1600 hitting 3.95ghz overclock :D
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I see there is a newer Ryzen 3 cpu the 2200G which has an integrated gpu. Is there any benefit using the newer cpu over the older ryzen 3 1200?
 
JaseUK said:
I see there is a newer Ryzen 3 cpu the 2200G which has an integrated gpu. Is there any benefit using the newer cpu over the older ryzen 3 1200?
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its has a faster core clock speed at the from the get go and accepts faster ram better ( all on paper) but they all overclock to the same point, 4Ghz max if your lucky on all cores. they also have less Cashe - I think they will possible phase out ryzen 1200/1400 and throwing in free Vega chip- to be honest, most getting these chips are to worried about Cashe levels to much as they are budget entry .

another note, these APU units were released after most recent batches of boards to distributors means you can Plug and play at the moment - you'll need to update BIOS. AMD rep has mentioned you can apply for a Boot kit to get BIOS up to date as well as Gigabyte stating you can send in your board for BIOS update (UK Based) .

it is nice having the Integrated GPU incase main GPU card fails, as with ryzen 1200/1400/1600 etc etc you need a GPU card to output display

Running in-game CPU only benchmark

general CPU benchmarks
 
orbitalwalsh said:
its has a faster core clock speed at the from the get go and accepts faster ram better ( all on paper) but they all overclock to the same point, 4Ghz max if your lucky on all cores. they also have less Cashe - I think they will possible phase out ryzen 1200/1400 and throwing in free Vega chip- to be honest, most getting these chips are to worried about Cashe levels to much as they are budget entry .

another note, these APU units were released after most recent batches of boards to distributors means you can Plug and play at the moment - you'll need to update BIOS. AMD rep has mentioned you can apply for a Boot kit to get BIOS up to date as well as Gigabyte stating you can send in your board for BIOS update (UK Based) .

it is nice having the Integrated GPU incase main GPU card fails, as with ryzen 1200/1400/1600 etc etc you need a GPU card to output display

Running in-game CPU only benchmark

general CPU benchmarks
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Thanks again for the info.
I ended up going for the Gigabyte B350M motherboard and thought the same about the BIOS revision the board would ship with. My best bet is to purchase the Ryzen 3 1200 as I know this will work out of the box. Maybe later on down the road once my BIOS is updated I could upgrade the cpu.
Does this make sense?
 
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JaseUK said:
Ordered the Ryzen 3 1200 :)
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no worries, guess you been reading on Ryzen refresh (zen+) and zen2 - the board will support these chips just fine. of course they'll get new boards and chipsets to please vendors and make them money but 1st gen boards, Bios update and drop it in !
that or you'll find good prices on last Gen CPUs with early adopters jumping ship, come 2019 prob find a lot of 8 core ryzen 1700/1800/1800x on the market for very cheap monies !

guessing prices of next gens of Ryzen will be even more aggressive due to the nature of hhow they make the chip, something like 10% wastage .... insane !
heard GPUs in future will follow this trend of meshing lots of smaller high yield chips onto a single big die rather then producing one massive chip with high wastage
 
Wow how expensive is ram nowadays.
Just got myself some HyperX FURY 8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz (2 x 4 GB) at £84.99
 
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JaseUK said:
Wow how expensive is ram nowadays.
Just got myself some HyperX FURY 8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz (2 x 4 GB)
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cancel it!
basically in a nut shell - very loosely- inside ryzen CPU is clusters of cores, they talk to each other based on the speed of the ram !

make current flagship boards can handle is 3466/3600hz but most now handle 3000/3200 hz and is the sweat spot. from 2400 to 3200hz will make a big difference - again in a very rough term - think 1200 has only one cluster but ram speed still effects it all

others will tell you the same on here . check to see prices of 3000hz kit , here they are £98
 
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