Advice on upgrading to coffee lake.

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I've got a bit of money burning a hole in my pocket, and I am tempted by the 8600k, but I'm a bit out of the loop so could do with some advice. I know obviously I'll need a new motherboard and ram, but do I need a specific chipset for overclocking? And am I likely to need a new cooler? Are there any compatibility issues I need to be aware of?

My rig is in my signature. I'm happy to buy stuff second hand if it'll save me money, I need to work out how much this will cost me after selling my old stuff.
 
Hi

Here is an entry level ATX option. Of course if you want a more expensive kit of ram or higher end board then that is up to you. The Z370 chipset is currently the only one out for CoffeeLake. Luckily it is the one for overclocking on. Compatibility issues shouldn't be a thing.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £540.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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What cooler do you have ?

There is talk of Z390 releasing sometime in the 2nd quarter of this year so if you are not in a rush then maybe wait and see what that brings.
 
TallPaul1878 said:
A perfect storm really. Natural disaster in Asia, high demand, weak currency. It all adds up
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Disaster card happened in Taiwan earthquake of 99 when memory price tripled in half year.
(bought IIRC 2x128MB for 1400 FIM at summer, in December those would have cost ~4500FIM)
Now question is about big memory makers having bought smaller ones and shut down their production to create in practise market cartel and shortage of memory and control to keep it that way.
That's kept memory prices rising for couple years.
 
Energize said:
What options are available from Amd at that price?
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My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £468.46 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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stock cooler will handle 3.7Ghz overclock on all cores, aftermarket needed if pushing higher
 
So for a comparable price it's an 8600k @ 5GHz vs a 1700 @ 4GHz, seems just to come down to preference based on workload then am I right?
 
Well in the end I bit the bullet and bought the 8600k and above motherboard, OCUK were selling 16GB of 2400MHz for £120 so the total was only £459, I'm sure I'll have no problem running it at 2666.
 
Energize said:
Well in the end I bit the bullet and bought the 8600k and above motherboard, OCUK were selling 16GB of 2400MHz for £120 so the total was only £459, I'm sure I'll have no problem running it at 2666.
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nice, coffeelake hands fast ram well for rendering but gaming doesnt have to much effect like speed does on ryzen. hopefully you can push 5Ghz on core and 4.7 on cashe :D

plus with prices, rather have more then faster speed
 
Im at 5ghz now, don't have uncore or avx offset set yet though seems generally stable, just gets errors in avx prime 95.
 
I've got a bit of money burning a hole in my pocket,

I hate it when that happens...

and I am tempted by the 8600k, but I'm a bit out of the loop so could do with some advice.

Perfectly good gaming CPU. Certainly an upgrade over what you have now. Having said that, AMD offers 6 core CPUs with hyperthreading for less money. Just sayin.

I know obviously I'll need a new motherboard and ram, but do I need a specific chipset for overclocking? And am I likely to need a new cooler? Are there any compatibility issues I need to be aware of?

Z370 for overclocking. New cooler? No. Mounting is identical for all 115X motherboards. 8600K will run a tad warmer than your current CPU mind you.

My rig is in my signature. I'm happy to buy stuff second hand if it'll save me money, I need to work out how much this will cost me after selling my old stuff.

I wholeheartedly endorse this upgrade.
 
I'll be contrary and say I wouldn't bother. Save the cash, buy the next gen gpu.

Unless you do cpu intensive tasks a lot.
 
I upgraded from a haswell 4670k to an 8600k and I can tell the difference in multiple games I play already.

My notes are, unless you do things like rendering then hyperthreading isnt really needed, I am surprised how many people buy x700 cpus instead of x600 when they just game.
The 8600k still has a circa 30% performance per core advantage over the ryzen chips, that isnt to be sniffed at, will definitely help gaming.
The ryzen chips that have a big enough advantage over multiple cores are not in the same price bracket.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600X/3941vs3920
 
WantoN said:
Fair do's then :)

Have you thought about Ryzen?
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Yeah I looked at the 1700, which is the same price as the 8600k. But in scenarios like Lightroom use the performance is comparable so I preferred to stick with the cpu that has higher performance per thread.
 
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