Poll: Poll: Would you pay more for non-plastic packaging?

[antijoke]

I don't understand why people like yourself can't grasp this concept? Are you so impulsive with everything? Drink a coke must get 10p deposit back immediately.....!!!!

No, but I don't see why I have to hand over more money to just have to claim it back.

I am 100% onboard with getting food manfacturers to reduce plastic packaging, it is not acceptable at all.

 

[Glaucus]

WTF?

Why is this being charged?

Is this the end user who ends up picking up the charge? Why are producers of said goods not being hit by this?

I also recycle everything at home, so why should I be charged over this?

Tell me I'm wrong about how this works.

for a start all blame is not on manufactures, consumers have to recycle. Although some of us do, a lot of people do not bother, hence the huge amount of plastic and other recyclables that go in general waste.

as much as people don't like taxes or charges, they work. Its worked numerous times, including the plastic bag charge, and you don't pay for it, if you recycle you get your money back.

waste is a huge issue and must be targeted.

 

[Nikumba]

One place like to see them start, when I was walking around Morrisons the other day around the fresh veg/fruit section was those roles of plastic bags you could use to put your stuff in. Would like to see those changed over to paper bags that would be a good start I think

Kimbie

 

[ubersonic]

So i am penalised for recycling at home?

There is a certain comedy that the government spent so much time conditioning people to recycle by fining them for not separating the plastic so they could sell it to China, and now China doesn't want to buy it they are effectively fining us for putting it in the blue bin instead of returning it to the store XD

 

[antijoke]

One place like to see them start, when I was walking around Morrisons the other day around the fresh veg/fruit section was those roles of plastic bags you could use to put your stuff in. Would like to see those changed over to paper bags that would be a good start I think

Kimbie

Yep I agree.

There is a certain comedy that the government spent so much time conditioning people to recycle by fining them for not separating the plastic (so they could sell it to China), and now they are effectively fining them for putting it in the blue bin instead of returning it to the store XD

When you put it like that....it's bloody hilarious.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Yes, assuming that I am not paying over the odds.

There is a certain comedy that the government spent so much time conditioning people to recycle by fining them for not separating the plastic (so they could sell it to China), and now they are effectively fining them for putting it in the blue bin instead of returning it to the store XD

A pain for those of us who shop online. Imagining this system and most recycling centers the machines will often be full and no one will empty them. Will probably just recycle them as normal tbh.

 

[Glaucus]

One place like to see them start, when I was walking around Morrisons the other day around the fresh veg/fruit section was those roles of plastic bags you could use to put your stuff in. Would like to see those changed over to paper bags that would be a good start I think

Kimbie

or bio degradable (corn starch iirc) based plastics.





Not all plastic is bad, sometimes paper/cardboard can be worse due to lifespan. It very much depends.
Riverford would like to change to plastic creates rather than cardboard plastic, as they are reused so much and last many years, they are far more environmentally friendly than the cardboard boxes. But when they sent a survey out over 2/3rds where hugely against plastic use at all.
This doesn't make all cardboard bad, like some places and people extrapolate. it's using the most efficient packaging for the required item.

 

[ubersonic]

Why is this being charged?

The deposit on the plastic is being charged so that if people bring them back they are guaranteed to be recycled which is good for the environment, and if people don't bring them back the government gets to keep the money (good for the government) and there's still a good chance they will still be recycled as most plastic bottles are.

The deposit on the cans is simply so people don't just buy the cans instead as the bottle deposit alone would make the cans cheaper per litre (something we covered in the thread about this a few months ago).

 

[Lakeland]

People looking for problems with this really need to have a long hard think and understand there is no problem with it

On any level.

They're inconveniencing us so that they don't have to have a fight with manufacturers.

This is one of them stupid ideas that looks great on paper or in a board room but in reality, logistically speaking, it is stupid.

Solve the problem at source ffs.

 

[adolf hamster]

This is one of them stupid ideas that looks great on paper or in a board room but in reality, logistically speaking, it is stupid.

sorry but you're completely wrong there, in reality and logistically it works perfectly well and has been proven to work perfectly well in multiple countries.

 

[Lakeland]

Of course people can take them back to a shop, that doesn’t mean it’s the best solution.

 

[antijoke]

sorry but you're completely wrong there, in reality and logistically it works perfectly well and has been proven to work perfectly well in multiple countries.

I saw a comment online about another topic and it says most of the recycling done through blue bins ends up in a landfill anyway....how is this allowed to happen and then a charge like this is passed for discussion?

There’s so much the powers that be could be doing here before this idea is introduced, is it just because a tax is easily done instead of having to actually tackle this problem?

“Oh look we’re doing something about it, honestly”

 

[Puzzled]

Of course people can take them back to a shop, that doesn’t mean it’s the best solution.

Especially when we already have a decent kerbside collection system, something a lot of countries don't have.

It just seems off to me as someone who already recycles that I will now have to keep a separate collection of recycling just so I don't get ripped off. It all still gets recycled, although what happens after its collected I don't know. A lot of our recycling gets sent abroad to be processed but I wouldn't be surprised if it just ends up in landfill.

Why not tax manufacturers that still use material that can't easily be recycled first .

 

[Monkeynut]

They should do this for batteries as well. There are very few batteries in the mandatory bins at shops...

 

[BennyC]

Personally I do this, as if you are also buying household cleaning products etc etc you don't want anything to rub of onto your food.

I don't understand. What unpackaged hazardous cleaning products are you worried about contaminating fresh fruit & veg that wouldn't wash off?

Could you not just keep these items separate and negate the need for a single use plastic bag?

 

[d_brennen]

or bio degradable (corn starch iirc) based plastics.

Or not supply them at all. Fruit and veg comes from trees and the dirt. Why bother? I never bag my fresh veg/fruit personally. More often than not I buy it on the way home from work from one of the Turkish/Greek supermarkets

 

[FoxEye]

No, but I don't see why I have to hand over more money to just have to claim it back.

I am 100% onboard with getting food manfacturers to reduce plastic packaging, it is not acceptable at all.

This also helps tackle littering, and littering is increasingly becoming a big huge issue. The roads near where I live are full (sadly) of Costa coffee cups, run-over Stella cans, broken glass bottles and McDonalds burger wrappers.

World is full of ***** idiots, as far as I can tell.

 

[D3K]

The thing is.. is the government telling us that our recycling efforts to date have been a lie?

I thought we were all putting our plastics in the blue bin to be recycled. Wasn't that enough and how will putting them in a store's bin really be any better?

The sooner they fine the FMCG industry instead of the consumer, the better.

 

[Glaucus]

The thing is.. is the government telling us that our recycling efforts to date have been a lie?

I thought we were all putting our plastics in the blue bin to be recycled. Wasn't that enough and how will putting them in a store's bin really be any better?

The sooner they fine the FMCG industry instead of the consumer, the better.

If you think everyone recycles then wow.
And no, both companies and consumers need to be targeted. No point forcing companies to make simpler more recyclable packaging, if it's not being recycled.

 

[mrbazmondo]

I live a few down from a co-op. I'm all for people paying more for chocolate bars so the wrappers that blow into my garden bio-degrade rather than me having to pick the up all the time.