RAF pilot flies jet THROUGH Tower Bridge

Hedge said:
Pretty dumb thing to do.

It's kinda "cool" but the entire thing was totally irresponsible and cocky.
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True, but contrary to many modern day protests it didn't involve violence or the destruction of others property. It garnered huge public support and sympathy at the time. We held our RAF pilots in great regard and still showed our appreciation of earlier sacrifices made by wartime pilots.
 
Kronos said:
Talking of 'elf and safety' the Aberdeen council have earlier this month, parents were sent a letter, which gave them a deadline to remove items such as cuddly toys placed on the surrounding grass at Hazlehead Cemetery, Aberdeen. The authority said the mementos pose a health and safety danger to staff cutting the grass.
It seems their big grass cutters cannot destroy totally a cuddly toy I could lend them my mower which seems to have no trouble.
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This is more about today's highly litigious culture than OHS.

The council is just covering its back to avoid potential liability suits. All it takes is for one guy to hit something unexpected, cop an injury, and sue for compensation.
 
You have to remember, this fella was an RAF pilot. Not an idiot.

Health and Safety regs are generally put in place to stop idiots hurting and killing themselves and others.

Unfortunately, as some of the comments show in this thread, there's an awful lot of idiots about.

As this graphic shows, more than than a fair share of them are over 60.

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It shows accidental deaths at work in 2017 by age. Elf and safety gawn mad.
 
inogen said:
You have to remember, this fella was an RAF pilot. Not an idiot.
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Doesn't matter. It was illegal and dangerous, and the RAF kicked his arse for it.

Health and Safety regs are generally put in place to stop idiots hurting and killing themselves and others.
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No, they're put in place to ensure best practice in the workplace. Health & safety covers everything from ergonomics to safe operating procedures. They're not just about protecting idiots from themselves. Even the best professional can become lazy and complacent over time. That's when accidents happen.
 
Dunks said:
Would you still say that if he crashed and annihilated one or all of your loved ones?
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The "sensible" thing to have done was write a letter to the government of the time, or stand with a placard in Trafalgar Square, but no one would have cared or noticed... He didn't crash and a stout point was made that got huge media attention and made the RAF's predicament known world wide. Even he admits it was a spur of the moment decision an he immediately knew the likely consequences. The modern way is shoot someone or behead them, or don silly masks to hide your identity and trash millions of pounds worth of private property by fire and vandalism. So it was relatively innocuous :)
 
Evangelion said:
Doesn't matter. It was illegal and dangerous, and the RAF kicked his arse for it.



No, they're put in place to ensure best practice in the workplace. Health & safety covers everything from ergonomics to safe operating procedures. They're not just about protecting idiots from themselves. Even the best professional can become lazy and complacent over time. That's when accidents happen.
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It's also when manufacturing costs go through the roof, much of our galvanising is sent to Poland and China is an emerging economy.
 
inogen said:
It's health and safety gone mad I tells ya.

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So something that was already quite a rare event has become rarer over the last 30 years or so.

Two points..

#1 How much of that reduction is because the actual accident rate has reduced? And how much is because trauma care is better than it was 30 years ago??

#2 What has been the cost of achieving this reduction. Not just in money terms, but in all sorts of other areas too??
 
Evangelion said:
Doesn't matter. It was illegal and dangerous, and the RAF kicked his arse for it.

No, they're put in place to ensure best practice in the workplace. Health & safety covers everything from ergonomics to safe operating procedures. They're not just about protecting idiots from themselves. Even the best professional can become lazy and complacent over time. That's when accidents happen.
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Yes, I was being facetious.

But a lot of it is about idiocy.
 
Orionaut said:
So something that was already quite a rare event has become rarer over the last 30 years or so.

Two points..

#1 How much of that reduction is because the actual accident rate has reduced? And how much is because trauma care is better than it was 30 years ago??

#2 What has been the cost of achieving this reduction. Not just in money terms, but in all sorts of other areas too??
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Not that rare though is it? 2017 saw 137 accidental deaths at work.

Across industry, workers now have a 1 in 250,000 chance of being killed per year. In 1987, that was 1 in 50,000. Considering most (and I mean MOST) people don't work in environments where you're likely to fall, or get hit by a forklift or crane and where being so is likely to be fatal that's a huge reduction for those working in higher risk industries.

I'd like to see some stats on trauma care, but I'd speculate that a good proportion of these deaths are DOA and always have been.
 
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Telecaster said:
Sounds like he threw away a great career as a military pilot to me, for what?
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To make a statement he held dear, above his income and future career? A moment of madness? (Young people still have those these days I presume, or has PC castrated them to such a degree?)

I'd guess 50 / 50 to the above, but hell, I'd wager he's had some claps on the back and sincerely warm hand shakes over the following decades.
 
Chris Wilson said:
It's also when manufacturing costs go through the roof
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No it's not. I've worked in OHS, and you're talking nonsense.

much of our galvanising is sent to Poland and China is an emerging economy.
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Due to the high cost of manufacturing here, which has everything to do with wages and other local costs, not OHS.

Orionaut said:
#1 How much of that reduction is because the actual accident rate has reduced?
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You're asking the wrong question. The actual accident rate has been largely reduced by OHS.
 
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