because he's likely frail (despite his bold self defence actions), he could easily have health issues, a traumatic event at that age can be quite devastating and being being chucked in a cell afterwards doesn't really help matters
78 year old pensioner arrested for for stabbing burglar (burglar later died in hospital)
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because he's likely frail (despite his bold self defence actions), he could easily have health issues, a traumatic event at that age can be quite devastating and being being chucked in a cell afterwards doesn't really help matters
But that doesn't require an arrest, the police can cordon off his kitchen or house if necessary. He can go to a friend or relatives house etc.. (or a hotel)
his clothing is a fair point, but again.. you don't need to arrest someone to get their clothes for evidence. Sorry to bring up a rape victim again but that is perhaps an emotive issue that better illustrates my point about having some compassion for the traumatised victim here... they'd perhaps need to have their clothes used as evidence, they don't need to be arrested to hand over clothing
he's hardly been "chucked" in a cell
he will be sat in an interview room giving a statement ASAP mostl ikely with a warm drink
its amazing how people can "forget" facts after a nights sleep you want his statement NOW
right so the reason for needing to arrest this person is because he's a witness and might forget... seems like a pretty poor reason
(again this is assuming he's done nothing wrong, that there isn't some further unreported issue that has changed things drastically)
he's just stabbed someone
maybe that's why hes arrested
I think you're missing: a burglar, in self defence...
and conditional on those bits... why the need for the arrest? assuming he's cooperative etc..
you deliberately missed or ignored this part:
(again this is assuming he's done nothing wrong, that there isn't some further unreported issue that has changed things drastically)
stating that he stabbed someone isn't adding anything, we know that
Lol. There's still been a stabbing. It is still better from him to be questioned with counsel etc.
Why do you always go this way with such threads.
It is right and proper tomfollow procedure.
doesn't matter
he has to be arrested to enable a prompt and effective investigation
until full facts are established he's a suspect in a stabbing
so bloke a stabs bloke b in the street
police turn up and bloke a goes, sorry officer he was attempting to mug me
police to bloke a
oh its ok mate on you go
*That seems to be your logic*
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Let’s hope he had good reason to stab him otherwise he is an idiot.
I've answered your question in my earlier posts. If you can't understand why the police would need to urgently investigate the circumstances of someone being stabbed and later succumbing to their injuries, then nothing else I say is going to get through either. Placing someone under arrest affords the police certain powers that him being there of his own volition does not. This isn't a cop show where they coerce you into coming down to the station by threatening an arrest if you don't go voluntarily.
You're trying to frame this as if the police are being unsympathetic and harsh with the man and couldn't care less about his welfare. You're utterly wrong, and massively uninformed.
that doesn't require an arrest, interview under caution and he can have a solicitor
you said that already, I just asked why... so far you've given the following reasons
his house needs to be searched - that doesn't require an arrest, it can be cordoned off
his clothing might be needed for evidence - a victim can hand over clothing without being arrested
he might forget the next day - dubious reason to arrest someone
so we're back to, why the urgency, why can't he turn up the next day for an interview under caution
I'm just asking questions as I think arresting a 78 year old burglary victim in the middle of the night is rather dubious (again with the previous disclaimer attached)
They could have arrested him on suspicion of any number of other offences (wounding with intent, GBH, manslaughter), but no, they've gone for murder which means the police have decided there was intent to kill. I'm not saying the old man shouldn't have been arrested but the charge he could be facing seems considerately excessive with regard to what has been reported.
if the victim has been bludgeoned with lots of stab wounds then that's murder irrelevant of the burglary
I'd really hope that there is something additional that hasn't been reported tbh.. as the re-arrest for suspicion of murder gives out the wrong message entirely IMO if they are, as per the posters above, just arresting him in order to investigate the incident etc..
(I'd be interested if a police officer could comment on that one - is it a requirement/default that they automatically re-arrest for murder because the person died or would that have been a discretionary decision? In which case I'd especially hope there is something else unreported)
media been waiting for one of these storys for ages. knife crime at the moment is a massive media thing.especially after it was announced london now has a higher murder rate than new york.mainly down to knife related crime.
without the exact facts how can you say anything was right or wrong ? most people would defend their home against burglars or intruders. myself included.whats at hand would get used.
without the exact facts how can you say anything was right or wrong ? most people would defend their home against burglars or intruders. myself included.whats at hand would get used.
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Burglars are absolute scum. Old fella should be given a ******* medal.
Wont be happening if its changed to a murder charge
He's either imo stabbed the guy in the back as the burglar was leaving the property (Unjustified use of force not proportionate)
or he's bludgeoned him to death again murder charge
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