Just want to be minted.

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flibbage0 said:
The way I see it these days is this, if you do not have a passion for something then you will not get very far because people will see through that in tough situations.
I'll be honest I'm not very happy where I am currently, but I keep having to remind myself that the salary I'm on at my age (under 25) is decent, but it's starting to wear off very quickly and I've done it for less than a year...
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I think you’re right, but I think you can learn to love something if you’re good at it too.

I had a chance to do my dream job, I was good at it and I earned well, but my health ended it for me. I was gutted at the time.

I ended up back in my ‘fall back’ career. Since then I’ve genuinely learned to love management and find it pretty rewarding and if it’s what I do for life I’ll be happy.

I really feel for you, it’s tough being in that position. But if you’re doing well I genuinely believe you’ll get the chance to take the skills you’ve learnt and (either in your industry or another) make it work for you, and enjoy what you do.

If you’re earning well under 25 then you’re setting your career up to be a blinder. Keep going at it mate, take the time to learn the skills you need, and once you’ve hit that 18 month to 2 year period, look at what you can transfer to a different role, and in the mean time push for opportunities and take anything you’re given.

Hope it works out for you.
 
flibbage0 said:
I've seen a couple of people break out of the mould of a semi-comfortable salary, they did work 16 or 18 hour days though. They did there usual 9-5:30 and then they spent 6:30 until midnight grinding away at a side project.
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I did this, it was brutal. I worked on it 6am to 8am too, looking back I wouldn’t recommend it, but it worked out in the end.
 
Having a passion for something definitely helps.
I see a very big difference in quality and speed of work between people who are just in the job for a salary and have went through various different positions in there life as opposed to those who are proper techys and live it (so to speak), ie the kind of person with half a dozen raspberry pi's at home and computers resembling spaghetti.
The ones who see the job as a career are almost always far better at it than those who drift around not settling on one thing.
 
Mr^B said:
I have just given up management, as it's not what I wanted to do and it was genuinely the worst 2 years of my life in terms of stress - but had an opportunity to learn more about the business and the technology so took it (it was supposed to be for 6 months).

Now back to a lowly developer/engineer - but for a higher profile team. On the same salary.
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I've heard of quite a few people taking this route to a higher salary. Getting the increase, then side stepping out of management and staying on the same money. Its a good trick if you can do it.

sideways14a said:
The ones who see the job as a career are almost always far better at it than those who drift around not settling on one thing.
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A lot of people are afraid to specialise as they think they'd find if hard to get another job that uses the experience, so they try and be the jack of all trades. If you're not going to take the management route you need to specialise to have something that companies are prepared to pay more highly for, otherwise you'll be stuck on the mediocre salary.
 
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Jack of all trades is fine, if you stay roughly within the career you choose. For instance an IT person doing hardware support then moving to software development is fine and dandy.
But a doctor who 10 years ago was a chippie, before that a factory worker at a fish plant and a car salesman before that doesnt fill me full of confidence as much as the chap who has been peering inside folk for all his days.

er if you see what i mean lol
 
Nitefly said:
Hard work is a given - I think it's risk taking is the key to 'being minted'. Hard work alone won't necessarily get you there, unless you think you can endure a conveyor belt slog with a carrot at the end.

I'm in a professional services role and, yes, I'm relatively wealthy (if we are looking at 'average wages'), but I'm absolutely not 'minted' in a "I'm going to buy a McLaren AND a Porche" way. Getting "to the tippety top" is (assuming that having the skills is a given) requires sacrificing everything to work, certainly any sort of normal relationship or social life, or knowing the right people (although you can make yourself know the right people). If you've got the skills, but that's it, be prepared to sacrifice your soul to the long-ass slog, mortal employee X3627B!!!

In other words, and I'm directing this at the OP, such a 'professional services' job, which sounds good on paper and perhaps 'wholesome', is not necessarily the dream ticket to being 'minted'. It's more likely a ticket to being 'financially comfortable' (but perhaps over-worked and stressed).

There is also the annoyance, for any job really, that if you're the sort of person that relentlessly pursues doing a good job and being excellent, you actually make the hard job even harder and more stressful than perhaps it otherwise is... and those that are more blasé about their work simply coast on, coping with stress a lot better. So unfair! :( :p

Well, serves me right for not having the balls nor the creativity (in an entrepreneurial sense) to be truly successful... and for clinging to the comfort of that conveyor belt.
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I was going to say something similar - I'm also in a professional services role, work 12+ hours a day, and am on a very comfortable salary. Does it allow me to do substantially more than my friends who are on £20k a year less than me? Nope. Am I considerably less happy than them (despite genuinely enjoying the area in which I work)? Yup.

I think the OP would be surprised by how many apparently minted people are either not minted (or even well off), or are well off but work their backsides off to get there. This may be the result of being on a computer forum where everyone is naturally materialistic to some extent, and many people discuss the new £2k rig they've just built. For all you know, OP, they've scrimped for a year to buy that.
 
One thing I'm starting to learn is to stop caring what your friends and family think, it's brutal and you might have to sit down with your partner/parents and have that conversation of "Look I'm trying something new and I don't know if it'll work but I'm going to give it everything"

It's your career at the end of the day.

You can do something for 2 years and it not work out and you're still young as ****

I work quite a bit with elderly people and I've seen regret and it's not pretty. When you're 75 and you want to start a new business you won't have that energy you have now.

You don't know what your favourite food is if all you've ever eaten is beans on toast

Just do something.
 
1) Invest everything you own and earn for the rest of the year in crypto.
2) Take a loan/mortgage out to live on.
3) Quit your job.
4) Wait 2 years
5) Cash in crypto and be set for life. Or have crippling debts and be declared bankrupt.

50/50 chance :D
 
kindai said:
1) Invest everything you own and earn for the rest of the year in crypto.
2) Take a loan/mortgage out to live on.
3) Quit your job.
4) Wait 2 years
5) Cash in crypto and be set for life. Or have crippling debts and be declared bankrupt.

50/50 chance :D
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Has this forum's recent obsession with crypto come about from Crinkleshoes and his investments in crypto:D
 
Not everyone can be rich. There's a hierarchy, there would be no food on our shelves if everyone was a billionaire.
23k isn't enough though depending on where you live.

Start looking inwards. Do you enjoy your job? If not, that's the 1st place to start. If you are decent at your job, does the company value you? If not, ask for a raise. What about a 2nd job on the side? Remember, it's got to be something you love, no point getting home from the grind to then start it all over again. If you love what you are doing, it doesn't feel like a job.
 
“Isn’t”, “Can’t”, “Not”, “Don’t”, “Won’t”

Picked out those words and similar from some of your posts. Suggest you start there.
 
Mulder said:
The utility of money decreases the more you earn, something like:
  • Enough to pay the bills - Critical
  • Enough to pay for hobbies/nights outs etc - Very useful
  • Enough for luxuries/faster car/nicer watch - Somewhat useful
  • Any more - Not that helpful, and can often be problematic
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True regarding purchases maybe, but extra money can be invested, which generates further additional resources, which can pay off debts, get better mortgage rates, which generate even more, and that’s how wealth begins to accumulate.
 
Russinating said:
Shock breaking news that roles with responsibility, skill and specialist knowledge generally earn more.
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hm, if only that were true here. i'm one of the last few who have in-depth business knowledge of the benefit computer systems and not only have we got **** on when we moved to BPDTS some of us actually got a 6%+ pay cut. They're happy to pay millions to dumb ass contractors who know nothing about the systems though.
 
I went from an 85k job to a 20k job a couple of years ago and couldn't be happier. Money doesn't make you happy.
I realised that the endless pursuit of wealth was making me miserable.
 
Rilot said:
I went from an 85k job to a 20k job a couple of years ago and couldn't be happier. Money doesn't make you happy.
I realised that the endless pursuit of wealth was making me miserable.
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Same, though not from so high to so low. Everyone thought I was mad, three years on my work/life balance is great and I'm a different man. Took years of stress and a near breakdown to make the leap. Money isn't worth being miserable for
 
Health, free time and family are far more important.

Money is nice to have. It gives a sense of security and options but spending it mindlessly won’t make you happy.

If you are on a normal salary I would just save as hard as possible and invest it. Don’t waste it on things you don’t need.
 
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