78 year old pensioner arrested for for stabbing burglar (burglar later died in hospital)

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I havent read this thread of faux-outrage but have rolled my eyes at the headlines this morning

Has anyone pointed out that if you have an RTA and the other driver dies, you get arrested, regardless of the circumstances
It gives the Police time to work out what happened
its just standard procedure when someone is dead and you are the suspect

But then its not like the papers to prejudge legal proceedings with their own agenda
 
He was perhaps fortunate in that exactly a year last Tuesday pre charge bail was set to a maximum of 28 days, otherwise he could have been in limbo for months or years.

Yeah, I was reading an article yesterday that was about the Jeffries dude and the Joanna Yates murder, I think he was on pre-charge bail for about 4-5 months!
 
I havent read this thread of faux-outrage but have rolled my eyes at the headlines this morning

Has anyone pointed out that if you have an RTA and the other driver dies, you get arrested, regardless of the circumstances
It gives the Police time to work out what happened
its just standard procedure when someone is dead and you are the suspect

But then its not like the papers to prejudge legal proceedings with their own agenda

"How can we rile up the Neanderthals today?"
 
Has anyone pointed out that if you have an RTA and the other driver dies, you get arrested, regardless of the circumstances
It gives the Police time to work out what happened
its just standard procedure when someone is dead and you are the suspect

This is the point. Elsewhere in the civilised world, you do not.

Consider the Venus Williams case. My recollection was that although the Police initially considered her to be at fault, she was not actually arrested. Interviewed yes, arrested No
 
"How can we rile up the Neanderthals today?"


I think the question is superfluous, questioning the right to quell robbery with violence in one's own home, relevant questions not asked publicly about the cause of unprecedented gangland murder rates in the capital, police time wasted on no women in a male voice choir, police time wasted taking selfies at murder scenes, police dressing up in silly outfits, Law makers arguing the tax payer should fund a trial over here of a traitor who committed murder in another country.

It seems to come naturally to certain crank elements and their Liberal agendas, no questions needed
 
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This is the point. Elsewhere in the civilised world, you do not.

Consider the Venus Williams case. My recollection was that although the Police initially considered her to be at fault, she was not actually arrested. Interviewed yes, arrested No

You think the US has a better law and order system? It's terrible.

Cops shooting unarmed people in the back with no consequences, plea bargains between lawyers, people doing life in prison for robbing food etc.
 
You think the US has a better law and order system? It's terrible.

Cops shooting unarmed people in the back with no consequences, plea bargains between lawyers, people doing life in prison for robbing food etc.

Yes, the US system is terrible, and despite that even they do not go around randomly arresting people until after they have carried out an investigation.
 
This is the point. Elsewhere in the civilised world, you do not.

Consider the Venus Williams case. My recollection was that although the Police initially considered her to be at fault, she was not actually arrested. Interviewed yes, arrested No

What, you are holding up the U.S. justice system as a beacon? I think I would prefer to take my chances with our own justice system.
 
What, you are holding up the U.S. justice system as a beacon? I think I would prefer to take my chances with our own justice system.

So would I generally, but it doesn't mean there aren't legitimate concerns about arresting 78 yr old burglary victims in the middle of the night.

Replies of "it's standard procedure" or pointing out that we also do it to people involved in road accidents don't necessarily make it right. And people pointing out that black peoples get shot in the US is of dubious relevance.

The replies from the likes of Burnsey on the other hand are well explained.

I still don't like the way this has happened, I understand their reasons for doing it in this way but I can't help wondering if there are better approaches. It isn't the case that all other societies in the developed world would necessarily handle it in the same way and pointing out some other failing in a foreign police force/society isn't a blanket reason to denounce all approaches they take.
 
Yes, the US system is terrible, and despite that even they do not go around randomly arresting people until after they have carried out an investigation.

Yep. That is one thing in the US. If you kill an intruder you won't immediately get arrested for murder when it's clearly self defense and the attacker had a weapon.
 
And often you'll get let off for self defence when it clearly was murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman


He broke no law and was acting under the statute I mentioned in an earlier post, the Stand Your Ground statute applicable in this State.

"The police chief said that Zimmerman was released because there was no evidence to refute Zimmerman's claim of having acted in self-defense, and that under Florida's Stand Your Ground statute, the police were prohibited by law from making an arrest.[18] The police chief said that Zimmerman had had a right to defend himself with lethal force".
 
Law and order always seems to provoke a cross section of opinion from hang 'em high, to sit them down with Jeremy Corbyn for a nice chat and cup of tea. Most of us are somewhere in between. However as we have been reminded before everyone is entitled to their view and this isn't SC either, so per the CoC maybe the mods need to take a look at some of the responses which seem to directly address those as having a certain point of view as "knuckle draggers" or "Neanderthals". I referred to SJW's in my initial response but in the wider political/social context, not directly addressed to those who might such views on here - whom I entirely respect even if I happen to disagree.
 
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