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So, what if you're consistently asking to get involved more in project work and the server works but never get given anything?

Obvious answer is jump ship I guess
When you've been saying it for what, the last 5 years(?) and if you haven't already moved I don't see how there is another answer :p
 
So I agree with @LiE, hard work is definitely needed, but luck is also a huuuuuuge factor. I could have been working hard and without that lucky contract offer, still be earning around what I was before, but instead, being in the right place and right time meant I'm earning six figures and comfortable.
Fuark. All that money can't buy you calves though can it
 
This is the big one really, and rings true on forums such as this one. Outside of technical roles or specialised professions you need to be a good fit and get on with people. The attitude of I'm just here to work and as long as I do my job well isn't going to get you far, unfortunately. Hard to be a leader or command respect if you walk around ignoring others or being quiet as a mouse and offering no opinion on anything because it "doesn't matter". A bit of charisma goes a long way, being the harmless guy in the corner who slaves away expecting to be noticed one day doesn't.

Agreed, I tried to explained this to my friend and what did he do??? Just sat there, looked down to the floor and shrugged his shoulders. Clear example he has no leadership skills what so ever.
 
When you've been saying it for what, the last 5 years(?) and if you haven't already moved I don't see how there is another answer :p

Not been here five years, you might be thinking of the previous job? :P

Same shizzle though.

This is my issue though, I appear to keep picking a bad bunch, and I hate changing jobs constantly.
 
It’s been mentioned a few times but if you don't want to take any risks then you're probably never going to achieve the lifestyle you desire.

Around 18 months ago I made the decision after 8.5 years in the same job to leave behind the industry sector I solely focused on. I had an average wage but was on a salary that would never really let me achieve my goals. To do this it involved making a massive life change. It was scary but, you know what’s even scarier – regret.

This was the best decision I have ever made. I have worked my *** off, doing on average I would say 11 hours a day sometimes 6 days a week. I have had to sacrifice a fair amount, and actually graft. Learn new skills, education outside of hours etc.

I am certainly not well off, but taking the risk has allowed me to reduce my 25-year mortgage to 2 years so I’ll be mortgage free the time I am 31. I drive a nice car and I don’t have to worry (within reason) about monthly outgoings or bills going for meals etc. I work long hours but I now love what I do.

This could have all gone wrong and I failed miserably, but complacency and going to work albeit depressed in my old lifestyle is something I would hopefully never like to return to.

OP perhaps there are not the correct opportunities in Manchester, why limit yourself?
 
It’s been mentioned a few times but if you don't want to take any risks then you're probably never going to achieve the lifestyle you desire.

Around 18 months ago I made the decision after 8.5 years in the same job to leave behind the industry sector I solely focused on. I had an average wage but was on a salary that would never really let me achieve my goals. To do this it involved making a massive life change. It was scary but, you know what’s even scarier – regret.

This was the best decision I have ever made. I have worked my *** off, doing on average I would say 11 hours a day sometimes 6 days a week. I have had to sacrifice a fair amount, and actually graft. Learn new skills, education outside of hours etc.

I am certainly not well off, but taking the risk has allowed me to reduce my 25-year mortgage to 2 years so I’ll be mortgage free the time I am 31. I drive a nice car and I don’t have to worry (within reason) about monthly outgoings or bills going for meals etc. I work long hours but I now love what I do.

This could have all gone wrong and I failed miserably, but complacency and going to work albeit depressed in my old lifestyle is something I would hopefully never like to return to.

OP perhaps there are not the correct opportunities in Manchester, why limit yourself?

Where were you doing before, and what are you doing now? start own business?
 
Where were you doing before, and what are you doing now? start own business?

I worked in an Sales/pre-sales capacity role for a Microsoft partner. I spent that time focusing on CRM systems.

I now work in cyber defence and security awareness advising Fortune 100 companies and military/government bodies for a well known US company.

Both IT I guess in some capacity, but I am now working in a niche area.

You have to do the hard work first to achieve goals. Never comes easy, modern slavery or not.

Out of choice and working across timezones. Self-study, outside learning etc. Would I change it, absolutely not.
 
I worked in an Sales/pre-sales capacity role for a Microsoft partner. I spent that time focusing on CRM systems.

I now work in cyber defence and security awareness advising Fortune 100 companies and military/government bodies for a well known US company.

Both IT I guess in some capacity, but I am now working in a niche area.



Out of choice and working across timezones. Self-study, outside learning etc. Would I change it, absolutely not.

Nice!
I don't think I'd have the brain power now to do that.
 
Life only rewards the risk takers and hard working.

So what are you doing about it?

Lol or those born to it, if you seriously believe most of the super rich are super rich because they work hard and take risks you need to take your head out of the sand our society is inherently unfair and we maintain a system of privilege for the rich that means most of the population are denied the chance to succeed!
 
Agreed, I tried to explained this to my friend and what did he do??? Just sat there, looked down to the floor and shrugged his shoulders. Clear example he has no leadership skills what so ever.

Leadership isn't an inherent skill, it needs working at and developed like anything else. I remember back when I started managing and the thought of having a "difficult" conversation would make me want to run and public speaking would have me shaking in terror and stammering.

Now I'm viewed as a damn good manager (about 150 people directly or indirectly working for me) I'm a mentor for new managers teaching them the ropes, graduates coming into the business and I'm regularly the mug stood in front of hundreds presenting and a weird part of me enjoys it :p

Most important factor is wanting it, doing nothing will get you nowhere but you will be surprised how swiftly you can progress if you have some talent, show you want it and are willing to go the extra mile.

Lol or those born to it, if you seriously believe most of the super rich are super rich because they work hard and take risks you need to take your head out of the sand our society is inherently unfair and we maintain a system of privilege for the rich that means most of the population are denied the chance to succeed!

Yes but put that aside, pointless worrying about those who get it for free and instead work on improving your own situatuon.
 
I've seen a few people on here saying "Money doesn't make you happy" and similar, but I'll tell you this much, NOT having money is all but guaranteed to make you unhappy
 
I've seen a few people on here saying "Money doesn't make you happy" and similar, but I'll tell you this much, NOT having money is all but guaranteed to make you unhappy

Glad someone said it.

To address the OP's point there really aren't any jobs that will make you a significant money that don't involve [1] Risk [2] hard work [3] responsibility or [4] high end education / skills. I'm yet to meet anyone who has a decent living who doesn't have at least one of these as part of their role, in truth they tend to have multiple. My only advice would be to get off your butt, find something you like and work damn hard at it, and then there's a decent chance 10 years down the line you'll be on decent money.
 
For most people in life if they want to live comfortably they are going to have to graft. If you punch in at 9 on the dot and out at 5 on the dot you're unlikely to get where you'd like to get and you need to be almost constantly educating yourself so that you aren't out-performed by your competition which is EVERYONE. You need to be willing to take opportunities and not necessarily get tied to the same job if there's no real opportunity to progress and you need to accept that it is going to take time AND you need to defer gratification by saving now for your future self.

I'm on a similar wage to the OP but assuming I pass all my exams I'll be on 30k by the end of next year which, when you're used to paying a mortgage, keeping a wife and raising a child, on a £10 an hour is very comfortable by contrast. But I've also incorporated my own business to generate a little extra income on the side whilst I study (and which I'll put a lot more time in to once I'm done with ACCA). It's unlikely that I'll be a higher or additional rate tax payer any time soon but it's completely doable to go from a council estate college drop out with 1 A level and a job stacking shelves to someone who's comfortably earning above national average in only a few years, It just takes some graft and putting your present self at the back of the queue.
 
11hr days 6 days a week?

Modern slavery.

You could argue the real modern slaves are the ones working 40hr weeks for near enough minimum wage and they’ll have to work till 67-70 years old to retire comfortably.

Surely it’s better to sacrifice a few years of your life to get ahead instead of living with regret and worrying/complaining about finances?

11hr days aren’t that brutal in reality, if you’re sat in a nice warm office or the comfort of your own home, just grafting away.
 
It does not define my happiness (my children do that), but I like nice things.

I like driving a nice car, I like having all of the latest gadgets and gizmos, I like going on nice holidays.

When I was in the UK I simply was not able to do all of those things all of the time.

Part of this was because I was first setting up my business and chucking a lot of my disposable income into that, but also because the UK in comparison to where I live now is a rip off.

I had a good income in the UK, but my living expenses over here are absolutely peanuts, and with these peanuts I can live far better than I ever did in the UK. It isnt my business (although pretty successful) that has allowed me to have nice things now, its my access to disposable income because the cost of living is so cheap.

Moving to SEA isnt a solution for 99.99% of people, I get that, but my point is that money (and by that I mean disposable income) does make a massive difference to how you live. In India I work to live, and I live well. In the UK it felt as if I was living to work.

This thought process was a major catalyst on why we decided to move continents.

Yep, we have it completely wrong in the UK TBH.

It is a really stressful place to live.

Leadership isn't an inherent skill, it needs working at and developed like anything else.

Some people are just much better at it. There's a lot of bad leaders, most in fact. But people won't tell you if your bad. Many can sit in a management job, but they don't know how to manage people.
 
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