Would you hesitate to turn left?

DAIR · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:08

A road in Cardiff City

Not the best picture in the world. But based on what you can see here. Would you (as someone who isn't familiar with the area) hesitate to turn left at the lights?

Nasher · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:11

Is this one of those bus lanes which have been clearly set up to confuse and trap people in to being fined? lol

Glanza · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:11

If you don't notice the two signs just before the turning I can see why it'd catch people out.

DAIR · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:14

One other thing worth noting. Is that the bus lane visibly ends. At the rear end of the BMW.

PiKe · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:16

I'm guessing the OP has got fined?

Amos91 · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:17

There's a sign on the lights, which you must look at regardless that says no left turn.

DAIR · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:19

PiKe said:
I'm guessing the OP has got fined?

Yes.

I received a letter from a Enterprise a few days ago. They've charged me a £35. And have told me to expect a fine from Cardiff within the next week or so.

Basically I turned left at those set of lights. The road markings actually invite you to turn left. Not sure what makes them think they can get away with this..

DAIR · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:21

Amos91 said:
There's a sign on the lights, which you must look at regardless that says no left turn.

That sign is for those in the right lane. And not the left.

bloodiedathame · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:22

The no left turn sign looks like it applies to the traffic going straight. Ie don't go straight over in the busy lane then left. I can't work out why there are two traffic lights to the left of it when one would suffice. I'd probably take my chances and drive down it.

PiKe · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:22

You could probably contest it and say the signage is unclear.

Maybe the guys over at pepipoo could help compose a letter?

#Chri5# · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:26

The bus lane appears to end (though there is then a warning for bus lane cameras), the left turn then looks to be No Vehicles Except for Access

DAIR · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:28

Okay I've just done some digging around and found this

http://wennol.co.uk/wennolphoto/Ramblings/052 The Scandal of Cardiff's Bus Lane.htm

Seems like I'm not the only ones. The crazy this is that this happened some time ago... You'd think the council would clear it up.

These pictures will give you a better idea of the road layout.

I'm not letting this one go.

DAIR · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:30

#Chri5# said:
The bus lane appears to end (though there is then a warning for bus lane cameras), the left turn then looks to be No Vehicles Except for Access

This is true.

Usually I would expect to see a sign on the lights. Basically telling drivers that turning left isn't allowed.... Or at least not ending the bus lane at the turning.

Scort · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:31

DAIR said:
A road in Cardiff City

Not the best picture in the world. But based on what you can see here. Would you (as someone who isn't familiar with the area) hesitate to turn left at the lights?

Shows a no vehicular traffic sign for the left lane - so no, no I wouldn't.

bloodiedathame · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:35

Its the 'except for access' that is the issue, were you visiting people or businesses on the road or using it as a cut through?

DAIR · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:41

bloodiedathame said:
Its the 'except for access' that is the issue, were you visiting people or businesses on the road or using it as a cut through?

The issue I have is that I'm potentially being finded for going into a bus lane. There are no explicit signs. Saying that private vehicles should not turn down that road.

Now had the bus lane extended all the way into the corner. I highly doubt I wouldvew turned left.

Nasher · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:41

It cant be for the bus lane, if it is you should appeal due to bad signage. It says end of bus lane before you get to the lights.

As I said earlier. It's clearly a set up by the council to confuse people and generate income. There's one in most towns now.

mjt · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:42

bloodiedathame said:
Its the 'except for access' that is the issue, were you visiting people or businesses on the road or using it as a cut through?

There is no way you'd notice that in the car, especially if it's a low one.

The bus lane clearly ends (there's a sign saying end of bus lane!) and an arrow inviting you to turn left. That junction is shocking.

bloodiedathame · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:47

DAIR said:
The issue I have is that I'm potentially being finded for going into a bus lane. There are no explicit signs. Saying that private vehicles should not turn down that road.

Now had the bus lane extended all the way into the corner. I highly doubt I wouldvew turned left.

Have you requested photo evidence?

DAIR · 11 Apr 2018 at 09:50

I'm still waiting for the fine to come through the post.