Just want to be minted.

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Maccy said:
You can evidence it on your CV as a side project that you’ve worked on, even add it to a portfolio/Git repo and reference it - employers really like seeing content like that :)
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Exactly this. Showing you do things outside work, even if the projects seem overrly nerdy/weird can set you apart from the bunch.

It shows you're motivated to learn, not just sitting at home watching Jeremy Kyle with a can of special every day after work.

Eventually you'll find these learnings can be applied at work in some way, maybe a specific project pops up and you're perfect for it.
 
I find it strange at times that those "without" seem to default to those who "have" (even a relative "have" that is in no way absurdly wealthy) as being bad people or people who have sacrificed their family and happiness to get there.

It is in no way a binary decision and whilst, undoubtedly you can have happiness in either situation, in today's capitalist, money dominated world it is easier to have a good/comfortable life when having money. Whilst not directly equating to happiness it certainly makes happiness easier to achieve if you aren't worrying about paying bills and assorted other worries.

At times it feels like a very British phenomenon as I have friends across Europe, some in the Americas and a few in Oceania region and they don't seem to have the, almost, hatred for people who try to make things of their lives.

Strange.
 
Envy and jealousy are rife throughout society, us Brits do a good job of not being able to hide it very well. After all, it's far easier to complain about your circumstances than it is to do something about it, and we're very good at complaining.
 
No1newts said:
At times it feels like a very British phenomenon as I have friends across Europe, some in the Americas and a few in Oceania region and they don't seem to have the, almost, hatred for people who try to make things of their lives.
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Depends where you are. The attitude in some ex-industrial areas is going to differ from that in the better parts of London and the home counties. Regional/local culture plays a huge role in defining people's outlook. The % of people going to university/with degrees and Level 4+ qualifications is a telling factor in an area.
 
I'm a Nurse, I don't make much but it's going to get me where I want to be, Australia. I'm finally moving there next year after being granted my 190 visa for NSW. I'm not sure how being rich would have helped me achieve this.
 
Hard work, determination and focus are 3 key ingredients to being successful in your career. Opportunities don't just fall on your lap, they're made.

Since I left college, I've work hard in all of my jobs and through the skills and knowledge I've learnt, I've been able to move up the career ladder.

I now work for a global beauty business where I look after all Technology across the EMEA region. I started my career as a 1st Line Analyst and that was 10 years ago.
 
Bear said:
And what you say is usually trotted out by people that are too focused on material gain which is usually the cause of unhappiness and fail to see where happiness can be found. I have luckily been around a lot of the world and some of the warmest, friendliest and happy people that have little to nothing but were the most willing to share it.
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Couldn't care less about buying whatever electrical tat is in vogue this month, or 'keeps me up with the Jones'. I use an old iphone 4S on PAYG, don't own a car, or much else for that matter.

Most important thing I've learned is that hard work alone gets you nowhere or any better thought of than life's shirkers.
 
Housey said:
So what else do you think is needed?
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As has been said many times, a bit of luck. And good networking, especially within IT roles.

A guy who works his ass off 60 hours a week, going above and beyond the call of duty but has no network of contacts both in and outside of his company will always be less successful than the guy who gets his work done and no more, but has a solid relationship with the right people in his company and contacts in other companies. I've seen in previous roles and see daily in my current role examples of this, people who will do anything for the company they work for, but are so shy and reserved that no-one even notices them, so they get no recognition
 
Hardwork and the right attitude are the 2 qualities I truly believe you need to be successful in a role. If you have those everything else follows. You will have the skills, people will approach you and people will feedback to right people on how helpful you were. Refer to back to Huddys interview guide which mentions among other things can you help someone senior to make them look good or make there life easier.

With the 2 qualities in mind I'd say you have a good chance of doing that.
 
Steedie said:
As has been said many times, a bit of luck. And good networking, especially within IT roles.

A guy who works his ass off 60 hours a week, going above and beyond the call of duty but has no network of contacts both in and outside of his company will always be less successful than the guy who gets his work done and no more, but has a solid relationship with the right people in his company and contacts in other companies. I've seen in previous roles and see daily in my current role examples of this, people who will do anything for the company they work for, but are so shy and reserved that no-one even notices them, so they get no recognition
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I was a rhetorical question
 
Telecaster said:
Some luck, bit of a chancer, gift of the gab type.

If it was only down to hard work then there would be plenty more rich people about than there currently are.
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I don't disagree these can often be an element for some, but in my 32 years of work they are not prerequisites to success and become less and less relevant as you progress. The gift of the gab means little as you progress as saying stuff gets taken over by doing stuff. You need a strong network, people who respect and can help, but that has to be based on much more than being a good talker, kissing backsides and being a chancer I assure you. To my earlier point the workplace is packed full of people who will find reasons why others are successful and they are not that are nothing to do with them. In my experience, it usually is to do with them, but they are unwilling to accept that. No inference by the way, just using you comment to broaden a point.
 
My goal is purely to earn enough to pack up work ASAP, I see employment as just something we have to do to negotiate the treadmill of life, nothing more. I'm neither interested in it nor enjoy it, that doesn't mean I don't work hard at it because that just seems to be my nature, it hasn't won me any awards or pay rises though.

My basic hours at the minute are 50 hours, of which I only get paid 40. But I rarely do a basic week because there's always something else that needs doing, including work stuff in my own time like replenishing stock from the suppliers at weekends/evenings, being on call with no standing charge etc. All these things I do without moaning about, because that's the other thing I've learned along with hard work being pointless, moaning never improves anything because then you get labelled as something else as well.

Basically keep your head down and try and get out as soon as possible. **** em.
 
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My goal is purely to earn enough to pack up work ASAP, I see employment as just something we have to do to negotiate the treadmill of life, nothing more. I'm neither interested in it nor enjoy it, that doesn't mean I don't work hard at it because that just seems to be my nature, it hasn't won me any awards or pay rises though.

My basic hours at the minute are 50 hours, of which I only get paid 40. But I rarely do a basic week because there's always something else that needs doing, including work stuff in my own time like replenishing stock from the suppliers at weekends/evenings, being on call with no standing charge etc. All these things I do without moaning about, because that's the other thing I've learned along with hard work being pointless, moaning never improves anything because then you get labelled as something else as well.

Basically keep your head down and try and get out as soon as possible. **** em.
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Are you really well payed or something? How is the above going to lead to early retirement if not?

We're all living longer and retirement is expensive.
 
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Telecaster said:
My goal is purely to earn enough to pack up work ASAP, I see employment as just something we have to do to negotiate the treadmill of life, nothing more. I'm neither interested in it nor enjoy it, that doesn't mean I don't work hard at it because that just seems to be my nature, it hasn't won me any awards or pay rises though.

My basic hours at the minute are 50 hours, of which I only get paid 40. But I rarely do a basic week because there's always something else that needs doing, including work stuff in my own time like replenishing stock from the suppliers at weekends/evenings, being on call with no standing charge etc. All these things I do without moaning about, because that's the other thing I've learned along with hard work being pointless, moaning never improves anything because then you get labelled as something else as well.

Basically keep your head down and try and get out as soon as possible. **** em.
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But all this is your choice and all of this you could change by moving to a better company, but you chose not to. This thread is about being minted (whatever that might mean) so my points are aimed at people who want to be that not at those who aren't bothered. You obviously don't care and that is fine too, each to their own. If you are happy then great, but I sense you are not so you can either fix it or just accept it and in doing the latter it is why you'll never be minted unless extreme luck comes your way more thank likely. I say again, nothing wrong with that but it's chicken and egg and the comments about gift of the gab and luck are not valid because most people are like you and use those as reasons for what makes success. They just put up with it and this is why employers (bad ones) will keep doing it, because they can because most people just moan, complain or say nothing......but still keep coming to work and putting up with it. Tis the world of work but be clear, you are the person who owns your career no one else, all of this can be fixed but requires effort, risk and some luck, but not as much for most who are minted I can absolutely assure you.

You could retire much earlier too :D
 
Steedie said:
As has been said many times, a bit of luck. And good networking, especially within IT roles.

A guy who works his ass off 60 hours a week, going above and beyond the call of duty but has no network of contacts both in and outside of his company will always be less successful than the guy who gets his work done and no more, but has a solid relationship with the right people in his company and contacts in other companies. I've seen in previous roles and see daily in my current role examples of this, people who will do anything for the company they work for, but are so shy and reserved that no-one even notices them, so they get no recognition
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I come across as Mardy when I'm not shy, as you know :p
 
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