i7 8700k help

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so im looking to upgrade to a 8700k with ofcourse a new motherboard. but im debating on which one to get, so i have a few questions to ask:
is it worth spending the £900 on a 5.2ghz chip?
is there a noticeable difference between .1 ghz on each pre binned chip?
which pre binned chip has the best value - perfomance ratio?
is it worth delidding it myself or is there a huge risk?
is it uncommon for chips to get to 5ghz or is it very common?
thank you
 
Bumblebox said:
is it worth spending the £900 on a 5.2ghz chip?
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hell no!

Bumblebox said:
is there a noticeable difference between .1 ghz on each pre binned chip?
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not outside of benchmarking or render-heavy workloads

Bumblebox said:
which pre binned chip has the best value - perfomance ratio?
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none. buy a boxed chip and DIY

Bumblebox said:
is it worth delidding it myself or is there a huge risk?
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if you're comfortable with delidding then yes, else, avoid.
you don't want a £300 keyring

Bumblebox said:
is it uncommon for chips to get to 5ghz or is it very common?
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50/50 without delidding (perhaps slightly more, in favour of 5.0ghz+)
 
tamzzy said:
hell no!


not outside of benchmarking or render-heavy workloads


none. buy a boxed chip and DIY


if you're comfortable with delidding then yes, else, avoid.
you don't want a £300 keyring


50/50 without delidding (perhaps slightly more, in favour of 5.0ghz+)
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ok, well looking at the videos of that die lid tool thingy it doesnt seem to hard, will i need a beast cooler for 5ghz? or would a standard noctua one with 1 120mm fan do just fine?
 
Bumblebox said:
ok, well looking at the videos of that die lid tool thingy it doesnt seem to hard, will i need a beast cooler for 5ghz? or would a standard noctua one with 1 120mm fan do just fine?
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If you have the Noctua cooler below, then you will definitely need something better for a 5ghz overclock - either a decent dual tower air cooler or 240mm+ AIO.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £58.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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Using a dedicated de-lidding tool does make the process fairly safe and easy, but it could still lead to damage of the CPU. You need to ask yourself if the slight performance gain (talking a few % at most) is worth the risk of damage + the cost of better TIM + adhesive + the tool itself + voiding your warranty.



Which CPU do you currently have?
 
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southernorth said:
If you have the Noctua cooler below, then you will definitely need something better for a 5ghz overclock - either a decent dual tower air cooler or 240mm+ AIO.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £58.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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Using a dedicated de-lidding tool does make the process fairly safe and easy, but it could still lead to damage of the CPU. You need to ask yourself if the slight performance gain (talking a few % at most) is worth the risk of damage + the cost of better TIM + adhesive + the tool itself + voiding your warranty.



Which CPU do you currently have?
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i7 6700k
cooler is noctua NH D9L - that good enough for 5ghz?
tamzzy said:
if not delidding, yes.
cuz intel cheaped out and used toothpaste between the die and the ihs
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ah ok, so delidding makes it easier to cool
orbitalwalsh said:
Dark Rock Pro 4 if no Delid .

Use 360 rad with £20 a pop silent wings to cool my i7 8700k at 5.1ghz 1.345v . Hit 60c gaming and 88c for workloads .
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with the rad do i need like a pump and reservoir and stuff?
 
Bumblebox said:
would this be just fine then?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...e-socket-lga1151-processor-oem-cp-00n-oe.html
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You would still need to buy and apply liquid metal to the Die (can be risky) and then maybe seal it with adhesive.

It's also an OEM CPU, so could be a dud overclocker and not reach 5ghz; which would be a big waste of money. They don't guarantee any speed for that CPU.



If you're just gaming on it, I don't think it's worth the expense over a 6700k. The performance difference isn't particularly huge, especially if you're playing at 1440p or 4k.
 
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southernorth said:
You would still need to buy and apply liquid metal to the Die (can be risky) and then seal it with adhesive. So they delid it for you, but don't do the full process you really need.

It's also an OEM CPU, so could be a dud overclocker and not reach 5ghz; which would be a big waste of money. They don't guarantee any speed for that CPU.
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should i just get the normal retail then
 
Only you know what you're prepared to really pay, if you have enough to buy yourself a pre binned 5ghz chip and don't want the hassle of diy then I'd go pre binned personally as there's no chance of borking your chip or losing on the silicone lottery that way.

But then if you don't have to have maximum performance and are not too concerned with a chip running a bit hotter than it really should, any retail 8700k would be absolutely fine.
 
Bumblebox said:
should i just get the normal retail then
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Yeah, just go for retail. Pair with some good cooling and a decent motherboard like this:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £153.49 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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Then see what the Silicon lottery gives you. You're basically guaranteed speeds of 4.8ghz/4.9ghz at the minimum anyway, which in the real-world is only a very few % slower in games/apps etc than 5ghz
 
southernorth said:
Yeah, just go for retail. Pair with some good cooling and a decent motherboard like this:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £153.49 (includes shipping: £10.50)
​


Then see what the Silicon lottery gives you. You're basically guaranteed speeds of 4.8ghz/4.9ghz at the minimum anyway, which in the real-world is only a very few % slower in games/apps etc than 5ghz
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would a kraken x52 be fine for 4.7 - 5.2ghz?
 
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