arguably not far off what the British did to Dresden etc. as Angilion said
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What would a third world war really look like?
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The western population aren't interested in a war they are to fat and lazy. Look at what happened when KFC ran out chicken. Imagine what the scenes would be like if they cut the internet off, around 25% this forum alone wouldn't know how to function. God forbid a neighbour's parcel was delivered or they found some out of date food.
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I took it to mean that the men were away at the front line so the civilian population wasn't a typical distribution of sexes and ages.
KFC is still out of most chicken producst! Hell they only just got their salt sachets back in stock and still don't have large cups. All this nonsense about war is distracting people from real issues like this
Another person who thinks all men are guilty. Couldn't possibly be any dead innocent men too.
because you might want them, or any assets, as intact as possible. you might want to cripple a country and force surrender w/out resorting to genocide/mass murder.
Is not far off from the British bombardment of Dresden with incendiary bombs. In just a few hours, around 40,000 civilians were blown up or incinerated.
Dresden was a university city far away from any military target or any significance. Let alone in February 1945 where Germany was almost gone.
And because it was that soft target, that even the Germans didn't believed someone could attack a military free area the devastation was complete and the bombardment went unopposed.
Even Churchill himself later wrote that "the destruction of Dresden remains a serious query against the conduct of Allied bombing".
And from a Telegraph article back in 2015 at the 70th anniversary of the attack
As for Nukes. EACH Trident missile has enough warheads to completely devastate 6 major European cities at the size of Berlin and Frankfurt.
While the nuclear arsenal of US and Russia alone is enough to destroy completely the planet numerous times, making it a lifeless rock in space.
And that because some hot headed morons, want to create a oil & gas pipeline through Syria, to stop Russia supplying Europe with them.
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Germany was in a total war economy, if you weren't in a uniform carrying a gun then you were supporting the war effort in your work. This unfortunately makes civilians a legitimate target as they are essentially military industrial workers.
@Panos I think Dresden was very bad, but in context 40,000 died in the London Blitz as well, yet your focus seems to be solely on what bad the Allies did
@Panos I think Dresden was very bad, but in context 40,000 died in the London Blitz as well, yet your focus seems to be solely on what bad the Allies did
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Even their kids?
i actually watched Threads last week....wish I had'nt now tbh
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KFC is still out of most chicken producst! Hell they only just got their salt sachets back in stock and still don't have large cups. All this nonsense about war is distracting people from real issues like this
I'm impressed that society hasn't broke down yet to be honest.
I mean it's unfortunately collateral damage, we suffered the same, it's not as if we had options in terms of smart weapons. We could've not bombed Germany and potentially lost more of our soldiers and civilians because the Germans had more equipment available?
...apart from the cockroaches.
The most disturbing part is you can literally replace Iran with Syria in the lead up to WW3 and the story is an almost perfect match for current events
Reminds me of a conversation with an old boy once - in the closing days of the war the men they encountered largely had seen too much of war and ready to give up but the kids (who had been mobilised) would often still try to fight them even when captured - he remarked that mercifully several times they came on groups of them at barricades sleeping from exhaustion so they could disarm and capture them without a real fight.
EDIT: Think there is a movie that covers it as well - kids as young as 10-11 were issued with anti-tank weapons and sent out against approaching allied forces, etc. total war is hell.
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Dresden is arguably the better example when comparing the devastation suffered in a single raid. 40,000 died in the Blitz over the course of 8 months or so; in Dresden, a similar number were killed in a matter of hours.
The Blitz was of course devastating, but Panos was looking for a comparison to the effects of a single atomic weapon; Dresden, as a series of raids which effectively levelled the city over a short time period, is therefore the better example. That doesn't imply he's unfairly focusing on Allied transgressions, nor excusing what the Germans did to London, Coventry, etc.