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Ryzen 7 2700x vs i7-8700k

prjwebb said:
Pure gaming, can't beat 8700k. But you need top end you and high refresh monitor to get the most out of it.
If you want to push the 8700k though you're potentially looking at delid and high end cooling.

2700x pretty much good to go out of the box.
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Well, actually, quite the reverse. If you have a top end card and want to push high res, they're both so close you'd struggle to see much between them. It's at lower res with the GPU out of the equation that it becomes a little clearer.

The 8700k has the gaming win by a nose. It's such a small lead that:
Price
A regular home system with background tasks
Most people at this end of the scale on higher res
The graphics card you use
What games you play (are they good with multithread)
Other small uses of machine

Likely will make more of a difference for your purchase choice.

The 2700X is behind in gaming, it's by such a small amount as to not be worth caring about.
 
That's why I said high end gpu (auto corrected to you) and a high refresh monitor. People that play 1080p 165-240hz will absolutely get more out of an intel chip.
Playing at 1440p 100hz or higher res/lower hz, yeah not going to see much difference.
But even at 1440p 144hz the intel will be ahead in stuff that isn't gpu limited.
 
high hz monitor show the gap between intel and amd cpus.you want intel for high hz monitors.thats why people want the high fps but people just act like its no difference or " close ". why have close ? have faster and better.
 
1440p upwards the difference is small enough to not worry about. Need to overclock and possibly delid(lose your warranty/break your cpu) to actually make any serious gains over the AMD cpu.
 
chroniclard said:
1440p upwards the difference is small enough to not worry about. Need to overclock and possibly delid(lose your warranty/break your cpu) to actually make any serious gains over the AMD cpu.
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But if that is the case, if your buying for gaming performance, then I imagine the i5-8400 for almost half the price would win when looking at best "bang for buck"?
 
Potty27 said:
But if that is the case, if your buying for gaming performance, then I imagine the i5-8400 for almost half the price would win when looking at best "bang for buck"?
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Probably, that's why there is no single solution for everyone, also now you cant really go wrong with either brand. :)
 
What I'm reading inbetween the people who are just outright amd or intel bias people who aren't being objective, which I guess is the same as supporting your favourite football team is that it's really hard to make the choice on what go for due to various reasons stated in the thread. That ultimately if you pick a 8700k or a 2700k, you actually can't make a wrong choice.
 
I don't even think this question is that difficult. If you're only gaming and want the best at any cost, i7-8700K is the one to buy. If you're only gaming at 1080p, you'll want an i5 or i7 depending on how much you wanna spend and how long you want it to last. If you're doing other stuff as well as gaming, or just gaming at higher resolutions then the R5 or R7 are the ones to go for, again depending on budget and whether you'd utilise the extra 2 cores.
 
DragonQ said:
I don't even think this question is that difficult. If you're only gaming and want the best at any cost, i7-8700K is the one to buy. If you're only gaming at 1080p, you'll want an i5 or i7 depending on how much you wanna spend and how long you want it to last. If you're doing other stuff as well as gaming, or just gaming at higher resolutions then the R5 or R7 are the ones to go for, again depending on budget and whether you'd utilise the extra 2 cores.
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Then better Ryzen 5 2600 over that Core i7 8700k because of the cost.
 
DragonQ said:
Well yes, hence "at any cost". I think the R5 2600 makes the i5-8400 pointless but the i5-8600K is probably still a valid cheaper option for 1080p gaming.
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I would not trust a Core i5 8600K after seeing this:

thewanted said:
It's incredible just how much better the Ryzen 2600(X) handles multiple workloads like streaming compared to the 8600K:

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Imagine what the new Windows and applications releases will do with these six logical processors only.
Intel is screwed. Should make these non-HT processors i2 or i3 already.
 
4K8KW10 said:
I would not trust a Core i5 8600K after seeing this:

Imagine what the new Windows and applications releases will do with these six logical processors only.
Intel is screwed. Should make these non-HT processors i2 or i3 already.
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Streaming is a very heavy workload to be going on whilst gaming and a completely different use case. Obviously a Core i5 is not up to the task but that's not what I said, I was talking about pure gaming. I think you're right that more threads is going to be better going forwards, but I bet the i5-8600K will still pump out more frames (if you want them and are prepared to lose threads for it) than the R5 2600(x) for another couple of years.
 
DragonQ said:
I don't even think this question is that difficult. If you're only gaming and want the best at any cost, i7-8700K is the one to buy. If you're only gaming at 1080p, you'll want an i5 or i7 depending on how much you wanna spend and how long you want it to last. If you're doing other stuff as well as gaming, or just gaming at higher resolutions then the R5 or R7 are the ones to go for, again depending on budget and whether you'd utilise the extra 2 cores.
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I've been gifted a Dell u2518h 1440p screen.
For only gaming use, would the intel still the to go CPU, or the new amd?
Looking at the reviews, the I7 and the 2700 are looking close?
 
Yep they're pretty close, so it might depend on some other factors like if you want the opportunity to upgrade next year without changing your motherboard, whether you want to keep your options open with extra cores, or whether you're thinking of getting a top-end next-gen GPU without replacing your core rig. I also have a 1440p screen and would personally go for an R5 2600(X) and see what Zen 2 brings but if you want your CPU to last longer than a year then the R7 is a great option now.
 
DragonQ said:
Yep they're pretty close, so it might depend on some other factors like if you want the opportunity to upgrade next year without changing your motherboard, whether you want to keep your options open with extra cores, or whether you're thinking of getting a top-end next-gen GPU without replacing your core rig. I also have a 1440p screen and would personally go for an R5 2600(X) and see what Zen 2 brings but if you want your CPU to last longer than a year then the R7 is a great option now.
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I tend to keep the CPU for quite a while and upgrade the gpu until the whole lot bottlenecks.
My Sandy bridge/gtx970 is maxing it while gaming on one screen(1440p) and watching anything on the other screen.
 
OllieC said:
Hey guys. So it seems i've narrowed down my upgrade choices to the new Ryzen 7 2700x and the i7-8700k. or is there an even better choice?
Which one of these do you think would be better for primarily gaming?
I need to overhaul my entire PC, with my current setup being:
ASRock H81 PRO BTC
i5-4460
16gb HyperX Savage DDR3 RAM
Nvidia Geforce GTX 970
Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250gb
1TB SSHD
Antec VPF550 550W PSU

I'll need to replace the MOBO+RAM aswell, so any bundles or combo's that you could advise me on would be great. and I'll be upgrading my GPU in a month or so as too, most likely being a GTX 1070 or 1080.
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Just wait for 8/16 core Intel anytime now...
 
I'm happy moving from the 1600x to the 2700x using the same motherboard, I bought an 8700k and motherboard a couple of weeks back but sent it back when I was unable to get anyone to honour the Far Cry 5 qame code deal it was meant to be a part of, and I'm glad I did now, There's still unknowns regarding the performance hit from the Spectre and Meltdown patching for the 8700k while Inspectre is telling me the 2700x is safe from both, The 1600x was only safe from one but this is safe from both and personally if I had kept the 8700k I'd of wanted the patching done.
 
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