Wearing a stab proof vest and carrying self defense for work

I carry a metal torch which I find is highly effective as a baton and is 100% legal.

The prohibition of self defence equipment has become a frightening sign of the increasingly authoritarian times we now live in!

At the end of the day it's ultimately better to risk getting into trouble with the police than being murdered. You have to put your safety ahead of appeasing the politicians.
 
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Energize said:
I carry a metal torch which I find is highly effective as a baton and is 100% legal.

The prohibition of self defence equipment has become a frightening sign of the increasingly authoritarian times we now live in!

At the end of the day it's ultimately better to risk getting into trouble with the police than being murdered. You have to put your safety ahead of appeasing the politicians.
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The prohibition on carrying items for self defence has been going on since the 70's from memory...

The main reason for it, it's pretty hard to tell someone who is carrying a knife/baton/pocket nuke to "defend themselves" or to mug/kill someone.

There is also quite a high relationship (from what I understand) between carrying a weapon for "self defence", and an increased chance of getting killed with it or by someone else, either because you over estimate your ability to use it (especially when someone surprises you), and thus they become more violent, or you don't run etc when that would be a more appropriate course of action.
Having a weapon for "self defence" means being ready, willing, and able to use it at any time, whether it be when you're at the cash point, getting your car keys out, or have your attention on your mobile phone.
 
insideline said:
Im not sure asking a bunch of geeks on a video game forum for advice on stab proof vests it the best idea tbh
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I know right. I mean, it's not like this place is populated by everyone from labourers to airline pilots and from scientists to police officers to active military personal and everything else in between is it?
 
Malevolence said:
I know right. I mean, it's not like this place is populated by everyone from labourers to airline pilots and from scientists to police officers to active military personal and everything else in between is it?
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And yet as far as I can see there hasn’t been one single recommendation in the thread for a stab vest ? Lots of people taking the p*ss though...

It was a jokey comment anyway
 
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Werewolf said:
The prohibition on carrying items for self defence has been going on since the 70's from memory...

The main reason for it, it's pretty hard to tell someone who is carrying a knife/baton/pocket nuke to "defend themselves" or to mug/kill someone.

There is also quite a high relationship (from what I understand) between carrying a weapon for "self defence", and an increased chance of getting killed with it or by someone else, either because you over estimate your ability to use it (especially when someone surprises you), and thus they become more violent, or you don't run etc when that would be a more appropriate course of action.
Having a weapon for "self defence" means being ready, willing, and able to use it at any time, whether it be when you're at the cash point, getting your car keys out, or have your attention on your mobile phone.
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It's because it's not a prohibition on self defence weaponarry its a prohibition on "offensive weaponary".

Because otherwise every gang mever is just carrying that weapon for "defence".
 
Werewolf said:
The prohibition on carrying items for self defence has been going on since the 70's from memory...

The main reason for it, it's pretty hard to tell someone who is carrying a knife/baton/pocket nuke to "defend themselves" or to mug/kill someone.

There is also quite a high relationship (from what I understand) between carrying a weapon for "self defence", and an increased chance of getting killed with it or by someone else, either because you over estimate your ability to use it (especially when someone surprises you), and thus they become more violent, or you don't run etc when that would be a more appropriate course of action.
Having a weapon for "self defence" means being ready, willing, and able to use it at any time, whether it be when you're at the cash point, getting your car keys out, or have your attention on your mobile phone.
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It's because it's not a prohibition on self defence weaponarry its a prohibition on "offensive weaponary".

Because otherwise every gang mever is just carrying that weapon for "defence".


At the end of the day it's ultimately better to risk getting into trouble with the police than being murdered. You have to put your safety ahead of appeasing the politicians.
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Hahahaha this is like sayin ultimately it's better to buy lottery tickets than invest in a pension.
 
If zombie movies have taught us anything it's that a samurai sword or big-*** machete is the way to go for personal protection!

C'mon people, this isn't brain surgery! :D
 
StevieP said:
If zombie movies have taught us anything it's that a samurai sword or big-*** machete is the way to go for personal protection!

C'mon people, this isn't brain surgery! :D
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But don't you risk the sharp weapon getting stuck in the bone and skull.

Blunted with rounded studs is surely the best way?

Like a baseball bat with those big old fashioned pyriamys shaped nail heads sticking out.

Enough to add a. Pressure epoint but wide and flat enough not to stick in
 
Tefal said:
But don't you risk the sharp weapon getting stuck in the bone and skull.

Blunted with rounded studs is surely the best way?

Like a baseball bat with those big old fashioned pyriamys shaped nail heads sticking out.

Enough to add a. Pressure epoint but wide and flat enough not to stick in
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Fair point, well made sir!
 
Werewolf said:
The prohibition on carrying items for self defence has been going on since the 70's from memory....
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The main legislation covering the general carriage of weapons in public is the prevention of crime act of 1953 which prohibits the carriage in public (without lawful authority or reasonable excuse) of items made, adapted or *intended* to be used as weapons.

* which is why you should never tell a policeman that the big maglite you are carrying (or anything else) is for 'self defence' as you have just made it an intended offensive weapon in the eyes of the law.

This legislation was principly a response to biker/moped gangs meeting up for fights around the time. Edit: the bike/moped gangs were more of a 1960's it was the 'Teddy boys' fighting in the 1950's who were originally called the 'cosh boys'.

The second major piece of legislation relevant to carrying weapons in public (that are not firearms) is the criminal justice act of 1988 which similarly prohibits the carriage of any pointed or bladed article (unless its under 3 inches in length and doesn't lock) this is designed to prevent a scenario where for example someone carries a kitchen knife which is neither a made or adapted weapon and intent may be hard to prove in the circumstances.
 
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insideline said:
And yet as far as I can see there hasn’t been one single recommendation in the thread for a stab vest ? Lots of people taking the p*ss though...

It was a jokey comment anyway
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If you actually want some stabproof/slashproof stuff bladerunner.tv has a good selection and rental for heavier gear.

Probbaly best to get some blade proof gloves and a long sleeve anti slash shirt (you're not some uoer self defence/armed opponent disarming guru so your forearms and hands are most likley to get ****** up if you try to fight somoen with a knife)
 
Werewolf said:
The prohibition on carrying items for self defence has been going on since the 70's from memory...

The main reason for it, it's pretty hard to tell someone who is carrying a knife/baton/pocket nuke to "defend themselves" or to mug/kill someone.

There is also quite a high relationship (from what I understand) between carrying a weapon for "self defence", and an increased chance of getting killed with it or by someone else, either because you over estimate your ability to use it (especially when someone surprises you), and thus they become more violent, or you don't run etc when that would be a more appropriate course of action.
Having a weapon for "self defence" means being ready, willing, and able to use it at any time, whether it be when you're at the cash point, getting your car keys out, or have your attention on your mobile phone.
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I just think that the right to self defence takes precedence over making the polices job a bit easier.

It may well be the case that someone could be stabbed with the weapon they are carrying but that's a choice that the individual can make for themselves.

Robbers and murders don't care about knife laws so the ultimate effect of the legislation is simply that people are no longer able to defend themselves against criminals who inevitably are carrying weapons.
 
dowie said:
yes you can wear a stab vest, no you can't carry a weapon, but you can use something as a weapon that you happen to be carrying for another purpose
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A padlock inside a sock should get the job done with a good few swings. ;)
 
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