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Who's ditching 1080 for 2080? (11 series ) ?

Just get an OLED 2017+ tv that can do it all and be so much better in every other way if you are concerned about IQ + immersiveness ;) :p :cool: :D Best of all, is you can have it right now and for a somewhat sensible price unlike monitors, which are still probably 3 years away from matching the specs as well as price :o

- got 120HZ @ 1080P if you want high refresh
- got 4k @ 60HZ
- create a custom 21.9 res. (black bars at the top and bottom aren't an issue as they are "black" and the size is still bigger than any current 21.9 monitor)
- "true" and full HDR support

Only thing missing is sync tech, but OLED panel more than makes up for that, at least for my needs/wants.
 
Yeah. Can't argue with you there. That sounds like 2-3 years away.

For me it would monitor that has OLED with proper HDR. 120Hz would be a nice bonus, but not a requirement for me to upgrade. Again looking at 2-3 year probably. OLED has taken much longer to arrive to monitors than I expected. We got the Dell one which looked like the best IQ monitor ever made from what I have seen, but that costs an arm and a leg and it does not have any Freesync or G-Sync or anything gaming related really.
yes forgot that! HDR too. next display will defo have that
 
- got 120HZ @ 1080P if you want high refresh
- got 4k @ 60HZ
- create a custom 21.9 res. (black bars at the top and bottom aren't an issue as they are "black" and the size is still bigger than any current 21.9 monitor)

Only thing missing is sync tech, but OLED panel more than makes up for that, at least for my needs/wants.
yeah no thanks, dont want 1080p, nor 60hz. nor a massive heater in front of my face on my desk looking ridiculous. nor screen burn from static images that PCs always have. And need gsync these days, deal broken. but glad it works for you! I like to keep my tv separate. oh and custom res with black bars, deeply no thanks, just doesnt work as well as a true 21:9, like watching 16:9 on a 4:3, just isn't the same as on a proper ratio panel, black levels aside
 
Just get an OLED 2017+ tv that can do it all and be so much better in every other way if you are concerned about IQ + immersiveness ;) :p :cool: :D Best of all, is you can have it right now and for a somewhat sensible price unlike monitors, which are still probably 3 years away from matching the specs as well as price :o

- got 120HZ @ 1080P if you want high refresh
- got 4k @ 60HZ
- create a custom 21.9 res. (black bars at the top and bottom aren't an issue as they are "black" and the size is still bigger than any current 21.9 monitor)
- "true" and full HDR support

Only thing missing is sync tech, but OLED panel more than makes up for that, at least for my needs/wants.

No G-Sync or Freesync 2 ones out yet, also they are massive. I want something that is 32" max, ideally 27" which is the sweet spot for me where you get much higher PPI :)

Truth is I am very happy with this monitor. Not in a rush, I am happy to wait 2-3 years.

Just waiting for Nvidia to hurry up and release their new GPU's so I can the 2080/1180 which should run 4K 60FPS on pretty much everything with a bit of tweaking the settings in game.
 
yeah no thanks, dont want 1080p, nor 60hz. nor a massive heater in front of my face on my desk looking ridiculous. nor screen burn from static images that PCs always have. And need gsync these days, deal broken. but glad it works for you! I like to keep my tv separate. oh and custom res with black bars, deeply no thanks, just doesnt work as well as a true 21:9, like watching 16:9 on a 4:3, just isn't the same as on a proper ratio panel, black levels aside

Have you used/seen an OLED display (setup properly that is)? I'm going to guess no, as 1080P on OLED still looks far better than any 4k/high PPI LCD display despite it being a "peasant" 1080P res.... Everyone that has seen my setup has also agreed that they have been thoroughly underwhelmed by 4k for "gaming" (and films/tv shows), they were more wowed by 120HZ mode when gaming.

People that use displays of that size a few feet from their face are quite frankly stupid, set it up properly with a monitor/desk to the other side and you have a great setup, sit a couple of feet from the monitor and 7-8 feet from the TV, any desktop usage i.e. browsing or whatever, do that on your monitor and any gaming etc. just fire up big steam picture mode or whatever and game away on a lovely big display, this keeps the static images of the main TV (which will avoid the "potential" burn in problems) and everything flows and work well between the 2 displays, essentially, it is just like using a dual monitor setup.

You can still use the TV as you would normally too, it is just a case of simply switching to different inputs i.e. 1-2 button clicks away

Do you have any problems with watching 21.9 content on 16.9 displays? If not, then I don't see why you wouldn't have issues with 21.9 gaming on a large 16.9 display..... ;) :p But yes, it doesn't quite feel/look the same as my 21.9 monitor but still, I personally MUCH prefer the oled, the IQ just can't be matched.

It just amazes me, people that spend thousands on their gaming PC to get better graphics (and more so those who buy 4k "monitors" for the better IQ) but then go and play on what is to be quite frank, **** display tech., which is the main thing that "displays" the "visuals"...... :p

Each to their own and all that though :)

No G-Sync or Freesync 2 ones out yet, also they are massive. I want something that is 32" max, ideally 27" which is the sweet spot for me where you get much higher PPI :)

Truth is I am very happy with this monitor. Not in a rush, I am happy to wait 2-3 years.

Just waiting for Nvidia to hurry up and release their new GPU's so I can the 2080/1180 which should run 4K 60FPS on pretty much everything with a bit of tweaking the settings in game.

I am actually finding 55" too small now! :D Kind of regretting that I didn't go for the 65" version now.

Yup, no sync is annoying, I'm hoping LG might be able to enable it via a firmware update as Samsung are releasing TVs with freesync despite the HDMI port not being 2.1.....

120HZ mode has helped with making screen tearing much less noticeable and then throw in some faffing about with FPS limiters and vsync (either in game or using AMD's enhanced sync) to eliminate all screen tearing completely but I haven't found a need to bother with this so far as the screen tearing hasn't bothered me that much in 120hz mode.

Problem is, we might have OLED, HDR or whatever monitors in 2-3 years time but.... at what price and also, by then TVs will have progressed even further beyond monitors tech. as well as being even cheaper..... I think once HDMI 2.1 TVs land, that will be the final nail in the coffin for the monitor industry, the only reason left to buy a monitor over a TV will be purely for size (even that will may not be a factor if/when LG etc. start mass producing end consumer rollable/foldable displays/TVs....) and if you want gsync (assuming nvidia aren't supporting adaptive sync by that time....)

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That is another plus for a big display (obviously sitting back further too) is when it comes to HDR..... HDR is fantastic but as someone mentioned in another thread, I'm not actually sure it is something I would want for a monitor where you're sitting a few feet away, HDR scenes get crazy bright and it makes for an awesome experience on the big display but when sitting within a few feet, I can see it causing very bad eye strain/fatigue.
 
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Have you used/seen an OLED display (setup properly that is)? I'm going to guess no, as 1080P on OLED still looks far better than any 4k/high PPI LCD display despite it being a "peasant" 1080P res.... Everyone that has seen my setup has also agreed that they have been thoroughly underwhelmed by 4k for "gaming" (and films/tv shows), they were more wowed by 120HZ mode when gaming.

People that use displays of that size a few feet from their face are quite frankly stupid, set it up properly with a monitor/desk to the other side and then you have a great setup, sit a couple of feet from the monitor and then 7-8 feet from the TV, any desktop usage i.e. browsing or whatever, do that on your monitor and then any gaming etc. just fire up big steam picture mode or whatever and game away on a lovely big display, this keeps the static images of the main TV (which will avoid the "potential" burn in problems) and everything flows and work well between the 2 displays, essentially, it is just like using a dual monitor setup.

You can still use the TV as you would normally too, it is just a case of simply switching to different inputs i.e. 1-2 button clicks away

Do you have any problems with watching 21.9 content on 16.9 displays? If not, then I don't see why you wouldn't have issues with 21.9 gaming on a large 16.9 display..... ;) :p But yes, it doesn't quite feel/look the same as my 21.9 monitor but still, I personally MUCH prefer the oled, the IQ just can't be matched.

It just amazes me, people that spend thousands on their gaming PC to get better graphics (and more so those who buy 4k "monitors" for the better IQ) but then go and play on what is to be quite frank, **** display tech., which is the main thing that "displays" the "visuals"...... :p

Each to their own and all that though :)
yes i have seen oled (4k), and no i wouldn't consider 1080p oled to be better than a quality lcd of higher res.

Who can be bothered swapping around displays like that. i certainly cant. its annoying enough to put on the vive! for a tv to cover the same % of my fov while gaming it would need to be enormous at 8 feet away. just not as immersive to me.

some games are nice to play on the tv, but for some, i like the screen close with M&KB. I use my console on the tv when i want to play on the couch.

Yes 16.9 content is not ideal on a 21:9 display, but most stuff i use it for fills the screen, which it would never do with your solution, just looks crappy.

Yes 120hz is great. I use 100hz but not at 1080p, its a big step up from 60hz.

what i will agree with though, is that people buy cheap 4k displays and think its the bees knees, its really not..
 
yes i have seen oled (4k), and no i wouldn't consider 1080p oled to be better than a quality lcd of higher res.

Who can be bothered swapping around displays like that. i certainly cant. its annoying enough to put on the vive! for a tv to cover the same % of my fov while gaming it would need to be enormous at 8 feet away. just not as immersive to me.

some games are nice to play on the tv, but for some, i like the screen close with M&KB. I use my console on the tv when i want to play on the couch.

Yes 16.9 content is not ideal on a 21:9 display, but most stuff i use it for fills the screen, which it would never do with your solution, just looks crappy.

Yes 120hz is great. I use 100hz but not at 1080p, its a big step up from 60hz.

what i will agree with though, is that people buy cheap 4k displays and think its the bees knees, its really not..

Horses for courses! :p The contrast ratio and blacks add far more to the IQ in my experience than a higher res. I just hate even looking at my monitor for normal desktop usage now :p It looks great on its own but when I go from oled back to basic LCD, just meh! :(

Out of curiosity, what was your distance from the OLED screen when viewing 4k and 1080P? Also, you don't have to sit at 8 feet (I sit at this distance as I prefer too), if you wanted, you can sit much closer (especially if using 4k), this is fairly accurate from my testing:

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Swapping around displays? You don't need to (connect the TV by HDMI and the monitor by display port, the only thing you need to change input/switch from/to is on the TV side of things i.e. from say live tv to PC/HDMI 1 or to USB or whatever and this is done via one button on the remote), if you have a good room, just put the TV to one side, be that on the wall or a tv unit or whatever and your PC on a desk as you normally would.

- Start steam
- click big picture mode
- choose game you want to play
- hit play

And the game launches on the TV and you can still mess around in windows via the monitor as you normally would.

Or if the game has the option in the settings, just set it to the second display (no need for steam big picture mode then)

And yup, no doubt some games are just better suited for the desktop/sitting in chair with M+K i.e. online shooters, BF 1 is the only game I play on my monitor now. Everything else, couch and controller.

An old crappy photo from when I first got the TV but it gives you an idea how 21.9 gaming looks on OLED:

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those stickers are mega immersion! :D

my preferred distance from a tv would be about 6ft no less.

and if you are going to play like that, shouldn't you just use the full res?

anyway yes:
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If you’re looking for best bang for the buck but still want to have a kick ass gaming rig, you’ll struggle to beat a 60hz 3440x1440 panel and a 6GB GTX 1060.
 
i'll be ditching my 980 for the next **80/ti card

i fired up dying light last night in 4k...... as it happens i last left the game on the top of a sky scraper looking over the entire city and i have to say it looked absolutely stunning at 4k..... however my gtx 980 just cant cope and it ran like a badly optimised xbox 1 title ;)

so back at 1080p which still looks ok, but after seeing how it can look at its best it makes the waiting even harder.
 
i fired up dying light last night in 4k...... as it happens i last left the game on the top of a sky scraper looking over the entire city and i have to say it looked absolutely stunning at 4k..... however my gtx 980 just cant cope and it ran like a badly optimised xbox 1 title ;)

so back at 1080p which still looks ok, but after seeing how it can look at its best it makes the waiting even harder.
Yeah. Like I could be playing FF15 or FC5 now at 1080P on my TV, but after I experience the extra sharpness and IQ of 4K, I would rather just wait for the new nvidia cards to come out so I can enjoy the games properly.
 
i have been going through my collection of steam games to see which ones my gtx 980 can do a decent fist of at 4k. Deadspace 2 looks and plays great at 4k, The bureau is ok, but have to disable physx.

in fact this could be a way of forcing me to play some older titles. i still havent finished brothers... tale of 2 sons yet which i am sure will be ok at 4k.

i still have MGS5, deus ex revolution, crysis 3, a bunch of assassins creed games, the crew, watch dogs, darksouls 1 + 2, Alan wake, Amnesia 1+2, arkham city, dead rising 2 + 3, dishonoured and so many more either never installed or barely started... surely some of those i can 4k on my 980.,
 
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i have been going through my collection of steam games to see which ones my gtx 980 can do a decent fist of at 4k. Deadspace 2 looks and plays great at 4k, The bureau is ok, but have to disable physx.

in fact this could be a way of forcing me to play some older titles. i still havent finished brothers... tale of 2 sons yet which i am sure will be ok at 4k.
Yea. I did that last year. I had a 7970 at one point and played a bunch of older games that needed to be completed. At this point I think I have played everything I would ever want to play on my steam library. Now it is a matter of if I fancy replaying something or not, rather than "oh, I purchased this on a steam sale, still not played it".

I am a lot more picky with games these days anyway. Not many games come out each year that I am interested in. This year there has been hardly anything worth playing so far for me. Hardly played anything so it suits me having a 1050 at the moment just for browsing and playing media. Could also use my Vega 64 Liquid if I wanted in another PC, but as I said, rather wait for the new Nvidia games so I can play at 4K 60FPS G-Sync :D
 
If you’re looking for best bang for the buck but still want to have a kick ass gaming rig, you’ll struggle to beat a 60hz 3440x1440 panel and a 6GB GTX 1060.
Imo a 1070/980Ti suits 2k Ultrawide much better than a 1060. But I guess if ultra isn't a must the 1060 can have pretty decent performance at 3440x1440.
 
Hey RanxZy. You planning on getting a 1180?
The sensible part of me would wait for the 1180Ti, but that never prevails! I think the 1180 will do a great job for my 4k TV as I enjoy couch gaming, so I'll be looking to order an aftermarket 1180.
 
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