Absolutely disgusting thing said to me tonight...

I would just walk lad and put it behind you, not worth the hassle.

One crack pot kicking off on the sauce is not worth it.
 
Diddums said:
Stop posting in this thread. Please. You're just ruining your reputation.
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I wasn't aware I had a reputation on here, positive or negative...

Regardless, I'd like you to counter my argument if you feel it's possible.

For those advocating the OP should speak to their boss, if someone approached your boss with an issue regarding your behaviour on a night out; what do you think your boss would honestly do?
 
Vidar said:
@Tefal I'm very clear about what was said and have at least one witness who can verify it.

Two of her Co workers overheard her comment, one was mortified the other defensive of her friend.

I've actually emailed the hospice with as much info as I have, I wouldn't normally of bothered and don't expect anything to come of it but felt it needed reporting.
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I wasn' doubting you man, just still had that little shred of hope.


Having just got in from a night out though (first in a while) I can see that hope was misguided
 
Ahleckz said:
I wasn't aware I had a reputation on here, positive or negative...

Regardless, I'd like you to counter my argument if you feel it's possible.

For those advocating the OP should speak to their boss, if someone approached your boss with an issue regarding your behaviour on a night out; what do you think your boss would honestly do?
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My only recognition of ahleckz reputation is a penchant for pink sigs (I have sigs off these days so not sure if that' still the case)
 
Ahleckz said:
if someone approached your boss with an issue regarding your behaviour on a night out; what do you think your boss would honestly do?
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Heres the great part, I don't get so drunk that I would make such vile and disgusting comments to other people.

See how that works?
 
When people are drunk their spiteful side can come out and they just say the most hurtful thing they can think of.... Clearly the woman in question was very successful in this instance... Does that make her an inherently bad person? Probably not... I am sure she would cringe if she could replay what she did in the cold light of sobriety.... While she may well be a bit of a cow she probably leads a life that is overall slightly more beneficial than negative albeit she could be a wretch after a few drinks.... Best way to deal with this is to assume she did not really mean it, forgive her and move on with your life.
 
kindernotasurprise said:
Heres the great part, I don't get so drunk that I would make such vile and disgusting comments to other people.

See how that works?
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No, I don't see how 'that' works. I asked a question, you replied with a question. That isn't how 'this' 'works'. Care to respond to my (albeit) hypothetical question?
 
Ahleckz said:
For those advocating the OP should speak to their boss, if someone approached your boss with an issue regarding your behaviour on a night out; what do you think your boss would honestly do?
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If I was looking after ill and dying children, and was wishing illness/death on a child? Regardless of any inebriation, if I said that, i would expect some sort of consequences.

Even more so if this was a work night out... We were all warned on a recent work event that our behavior was expected to be sensible as the company reputation was important. I don't imagine that we are the only company in the world with similar guidelines.

Imagine she had said that to a reporter, or it got to the news?? It would be a terrible PR disaster for the hospice.
 
I'm with Ahleckz on this one. Get with the times, the insults of 15 yrs ago are old hat...oh yeah and won't somebody please think of the children!
 
Ahleckz said:
No, I don't see how 'that' works. I asked a question, you replied with a question. That isn't how 'this' 'works'. Care to respond to my (albeit) hypothetical question?
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You already know the answer. It starts at a verbal warning and can probably end at gross misconduct.

So once again, don't get so drunk. See how it works now?

But, by your logic, we should probably let the rapists out of jail, or those who killed others drink driving, because you know, it was just a bit of drink right? Should just "let it go".

:rolleyes:
 
Malt_Vinegar said:
If I was looking after ill and dying children, and was wishing illness/death on a child? Regardless of any inebriation, if I said that, i would expect some sort of consequences.

Even more so if this was a work night out... We were all warned on a recent work event that our behavior was expected to be sensible as the company reputation was important. I don't imagine that we are the only company in the world with similar guidelines.

Imagine she had said that to a reporter, or it got to the news?? It would be a terrible PR disaster for the hospice.
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100 times this.
 
kindernotasurprise said:
You already know the answer. It starts at a verbal warning and can probably end at gross misconduct.

So once again, don't get so drunk. See how it works now?

But, by your logic, we should probably let the rapists out of jail, or those who killed others drink driving, because you know, it was just a bit of drink right? Should just "let it go".

:rolleyes:
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Mean words =murder and rape now?
 
Ahleckz said:
No, I didn't say it was acceptable because she was drunk. But, I'm advocating a bit of balance and common sense.
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Sensible and common sense.

Ahleckz said:
What does the OP, and the militants, want to achieve? Should this woman loose her job? Should she be fined? Arrested? Sued? She said something, when she was drunk. It was in poor taste, but let's look at it objectively. She's had too much to drunk, it's the end of the night. She needs to go home. She's not going to remember it tomorrow, it's not a judgement on her ability to do her job (and even if it was, a bouncer isn't in a position to comment on such a thing) and ultimately it's no more offensive than someone calling the bouncer ugly (or whatever nonoffensive insult you decide upon).
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Discussion points.

Ahleckz said:
The only person who should be in danger of being sacked is this bouncer - if they can't handle such a throwaway comment then their SIA badge needs to be removed. I worry about his ability to handle a stressful situation...

Knickers are firmly in a twist in this thread.
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Oh...
 
at the end of the day the said woman's objective at being asked to leave obviously irked her, so her reaction was to say the most insulting thing to upset the OP...so one way to look at it was job done lol
 
Tefal said:
Mean words =murder and rape now?
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If using drink is an excuse for one act, then you have to apply the same logic to others, you can't just cherry pick it as an excuse for one thing and not another.

It boils down to being responsible. If you cant drink without becoming a vile cesspit of abuse, then don't drink so much. If you decide the drink to that degree, then too bad for you on the other side, if someone wishes to take it up with your boss because you pulled their company into the mix, well sucks to be you.

Maybe if she get reprimanded it will teach her to moderate how much she drinks on a night out.
 
kindernotasurprise said:
If using drink is an excuse for one act, then you have to apply the same logic to others, you can't just cherry pick it as an excuse for one thing and not another.

It boils down to being responsible. If you cant drink without becoming a vile cesspit of abuse, then don't drink so much. If you decide the drink to that degree, then too bad for you on the other side, if someone wishes to take it up with your boss because you pulled their company into the mix, well sucks to be you.

Maybe if she get reprimanded it will teach her to moderate how much she drinks on a night out.
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sorry pal but that is your ego talking nothing else.
 
kindernotasurprise said:
If using drink is an excuse for one act, then you have to apply the same logic to others, you can't just cherry pick it as an excuse for one thing and not another.
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Haha want to think that through again mate?

Get drunk and drive = guilty of drink driving.

Get drunk and have sex = rape victim because you can't consent and aren't responsible for your actions .
 
kindernotasurprise said:
If using drink is an excuse for one act, then you have to apply the same logic to others, you can't just cherry pick it as an excuse for one thing and not another.

It boils down to being responsible. If you cant drink without becoming a vile cesspit of abuse, then don't drink so much. If you decide the drink to that degree, then too bad for you on the other side, if someone wishes to take it up with your boss because you pulled their company into the mix, well sucks to be you.

Maybe if she get reprimanded it will teach her to moderate how much she drinks on a night out.
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It don't work like that, if you in a boozer in your glad rags and not in uniform then you can do as you please.

Reputation of a company is only brought down if you go psycho sally in a company uniform.

I think but not sure its only the police that cannot carry on.
 
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