Or we just outlaw it?
Not discriminating is discrimination
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Or we just outlaw it?
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Surely you lose all rights upon death?
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Nah not outlawing it. I just feel that it should be a privilege, not a right. I got bullied by religious folks in a previous workplace for being a non-believer. So I wrote my previous post because religion can be abused, just like alcohol and gambling. Which is why it needs an age rating.
If the argument is they must be buried "as soon as possible" then I dont see how there is a legal argument for fast tracking them.
They are released for burial as soon as they are processed therefore as soon as possible in the circumstances.
If there is no option for fast tracking it is soon as possible.
They are released for burial as soon as they are processed therefore as soon as possible in the circumstances.
If there is no option for fast tracking it is soon as possible.
Well if you live in a majority muslim.or Jewish area and you keep getting pushed back in the queue I imagine it could be quite distressing for your loved one constantly being told "oh you'l get your husbands body next week", "oh sorry you'll have to wait till th e following week now"
Be a nightmare for funeral planning.
Obviously you'e still dead and so don' care but your family kigjt
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tbh the uk way of taking ages with the coroner isn't all that dignified imo.
over here the accepted tradition is you're in the ground within 3 days, i remember when my grandad died and my manager couldn't beleive i was giving him more than a weeks notice that i'd be going to the funeral.
just doesn't seem right to me to leave bodies lying around for weeks before burial unless there's a real need for it (like murder victims etc)
over here the accepted tradition is you're in the ground within 3 days, i remember when my grandad died and my manager couldn't beleive i was giving him more than a weeks notice that i'd be going to the funeral.
just doesn't seem right to me to leave bodies lying around for weeks before burial unless there's a real need for it (like murder victims etc)
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So this is just Islam is it?
The ruling doesn't apply to any other religion?
You couldn't even be bothered to read the linked article in the original post before indulging your Islamophobia?
Quelle surprise!
Because the 'equality' isn't the type of service, it's in the suitability of the service. Much like providing ramps and lifts and massive toilets for wheelchair users.
A wait of a week or two is entirely acceptable to most (certainly never heard anyone complain about it) , but would be distressing to those for whom it runs against their beliefs.
Frankly, it seems entirely in keeping with British values of decency to allow those for whom such things matter to be given an expedited service.
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I think that judgement is fair, no matter what your religion you should be treated equally be the state.
But it' not against thier belive as it is "as soon as possible" so when thier number is up int he queue is as soon as possible.
I mean does the family that wants the funeral ona specific day for convenience get moved up the queue or is it only those with a religion that gets moved up?
By being treated in equally?
A Christian family could have thier loved ones body's relseas knocked back multiple times because of this
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I think we're at cross points here Tefal, I saying the judgement is correct *not* to prioritise religion, I was replying to the OP.
The judgement is prioritising religion though.
The coroner was not peioristisbg religion the judgement found this to be unlawful and there are calls foe the coroner to resign if she refuses to priorities Muslim and Jewish bodies
You got the judgement the wrong way around
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Ah ok I got confused when you said judgement and thought you meant the ruling not the coroner.
I agree it seems the most sensible or you open a can of worms over who get priority for what.
"Religion"
"But our uncle is only in town for the weekend"
"Its what she wanted!"
Etc.
Also the great case of "Hans Schmidt?, yeah he was totally Jewish we need his body by Friday the ks!"
I think that's a typo there? Should probably read 1st Century?
Agree with the OP, this isn't about not discriminating - it's about some sections of society seeking preferential treatment at the expense of others. The worst thing about it is our courts have seemingly thrown reason out the window in coming up with this judgement.