Scumbag lorry drivers!
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And this makes you a massive pain in the backside to a lorry driver. Instead of having to overtake just a lorry and pull in we also have to contend with the car drivers hovering around that lorry so we end up in a situation where a potential ~30s overtake of a HGV turns into several minutes because we have the car drivers messing around going slowly in L1 also, you're the reason that HGV is hanging out in L2 for such a long period of time.
How am I any more of an obstruction than the truck I am following, If you cant get past me, you wont be able to get past him either.
And in any case, that doesn't detract from the fact that the "Making Progress" argument is still crap.
Journey times aren't about how fast you can go on the clear bits, they are almost entirely down to the amount of time spent in heavy traffic.
Just stay in lane, you will get to the destination at the same time +/- seconds, literally seconds.
And you wont be a nuisance/danger for everybody else
Because if we caught up with you enough to start overtaking then we're obviously going faster than you. If you're sat in L1 for no good reason other than you want to save fuel then you're an obstruction as we now have multiple vehicles to overtake before we can get back into L1, instead of overtaking 1 HGV and pulling back into L1 we're having to overtake a line of vehicles all at the same time.
My point isn't that we can't get past you, my point is that you're making it take longer than necessary and are responsible for holding HGV's out in L2 longer than would have otherwise been needed, you can't sit in L1 dawdling along trying to increase your MPG then complain that HGV's are also spending a long time sat in L2 causing congestion behind. You can't have it both ways.
My point isn't that we can't get past you, my point is that you're making it take longer than necessary and are responsible for holding HGV's out in L2 longer than would have otherwise been needed, you can't sit in L1 dawdling along trying to increase your MPG then complain that HGV's are also spending a long time sat in L2 causing congestion behind. You can't have it both ways.
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True and that truck was proper scary
I often think they missed a trick at the end when they should have shown a woman at the end as the truck driver.
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So what should we pain-in-the-ass car drivers do who want to get the maximum MPG ?
Most of us have to pay for our own fuel and road tax unlike truckers and white van man.
From someone who has a team of 40 drivers and can spend 10 Hrs on the road at a time himself .. The making progress example is correct. Your example of 20 miles is not a big enough timescale.. Go and spend 10 hours on a motorway network at your 2 speeds.
With regard to Orionaut’s claim that his Lancruiser will return 37 mpg at 55 mph, but only 22 mpg at 70 mph.
This may well be true, I’m not here to dispute that, but I find it hard to believe that someone would buy a comfortable tool like a Landcruiser, (I have no idea what they cost), and then drive from e.g. London to Cardiff along the M4 at 55mph only, just to save money on fuel.
This may well be true, I’m not here to dispute that, but I find it hard to believe that someone would buy a comfortable tool like a Landcruiser, (I have no idea what they cost), and then drive from e.g. London to Cardiff along the M4 at 55mph only, just to save money on fuel.
True enough. If I'm going 20 miles on a journey, I don't see the point. If I'm going 400 miles you can bet I'll be doing 70+ rather than 55 to shave an hour off the journey.
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I find lorry divers & mums (with kids in cars) the worse on the roads. Okay not every lorry or mum driver but when there is someone far too close behind me it is 9 times out of 10 one of the two. They both drive me bonkers, esp the mums... they sit so close I can see them clearly not even looking at my car but sorting out something for the kids... cant see the lorry divers only the flies in their grill.
Edit: I too drive 4 seconds behind, too many folk seem to think I should be speeding up to get 0.5 second behind the driver in front of me. Idiots.
Edit: I too drive 4 seconds behind, too many folk seem to think I should be speeding up to get 0.5 second behind the driver in front of me. Idiots.
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Buy a more economical car!
I can get 60-65mpg without having to sit behind a HGV.
You don't buy a "gas guzzler" if you're going to fret about the mpg you're getting.
I tend to sit behind trucks just because it's nice and stress free with the cruise control on. What really bugs me is when a truck comes down a slip road to join the motorway and doesn't give way just expects you to get out of their way I've had them beeping me for no other reason than im on the bit of road they want even though there isn't even anything behind me so could easily slow down and pull in behind.
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Op needs to chill, in real terms overtaking behind a lorry will only add a seconds to a minute, if that to ur travel time unless ur an idiot who goes well over the speed limit
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I can totally appreciate the slip road thing. It’s dangerous to enter a motorway at a low speed and worse for a HGV which will take longer to get up to speed. If you’re able to move over then you should do so.
Regardless of being nice, the markings at the end of slip roads are give way, same as between lane markings. Just because someone else wants to be there doesn't mean you have to move. I find this is far more a car driver coming down the slip road issue for trucks on the carriageway than the other way around, however.
I like the fact in France / Spain, a quick flash of the headlights as you come up to a lorry which is about to make an overtake will cause it (80% of the time) to abort the overtake.
What annoys me in the UK is that a 5 minute overtake between 2 lorries usually causes people in lane 3 to hit the brakes as people in lane 2 force themselves into lane 3.
What annoys me in the UK is that a 5 minute overtake between 2 lorries usually causes people in lane 3 to hit the brakes as people in lane 2 force themselves into lane 3.