Ebay Issues: Buyer finding fault with condition of item....wants refund

EBay will side with the buyer and you will most likely end up with someone else's manky trainers. The fight after that will be long and grind you down and will most likely end with EBay siding with the buyer.

Ask him what he thinks is an acceptable partial refund (£5? £10) - refund, block him and move on with your life.

Oh..............and don't sell on EBay.
 
I would stick to your guns return and refund. No partial refund.

Buyers obviously either a) and idiot or b) a scammer to question why you want wider angle photos of the trainers which include the damage they claim to be present......

Only use ebay occasionally to buy of shop sellers. Too risky as a private seller
 
I'd have asked for a video if he can take pics he can take video that way he can't fake it. Also if all else fails tell him u always UV security mark stuff incase of scammers just don't say where u marked but say it's a tiny mark if u want.
 
Nothing wrong with selling on eBay, yes you get scammers and it's unfortunate but plenty of things you can do to minimise the risk. The majority of buyers won't be looking to rip you off.
 
eBay has chancers, I've seen it a lot on high value items being relisted again and again. I've never had an issue personally as I take pictures and videos of everything I sell. Even when it comes to packaging it just to cover my back.
 
Find out where he lives and go see him for a coffee. A coffee and some knuckle sandwiches. Take your finest keyboard and have a strong curry just in case he’s not in. Shock and pour!
 
People, please stop selling on eBay.

Every other week we seem to have the same problem threads regarding eBay, does nobody learn?

Indeed, I turn to gumtree first, then if that fails ebay.
Nothing really wrong with eBay, it is a huge marketplace filled with millions of buyers and anywhere you sell has a small percentage of time wasters and scammers.

At the end of the day people post when they have problems, you don't hear about the hundreds of thousands of people who sell on eBay without issue. You hear about the >1% who have rare nightmare situations like this. It is similar to the classic review bias where you are more likely to see negative reviews of a product regardless of the number of reviewers because most people love to complain and people rarely post reviews of products that work fine unless they actively enjoy reviewing things. There is an inherent negative bias with anything reviewed by the general public that you have to look past.

I've done quite a few high value transactions recently due to the £1 FVF offers and every buyer has been a delight. It is just the few scammers and chancers that ruin it for everyone else. That said it doesn't matter where you are selling you just have to be smart and spend a bit of time to cover yourself. Most people have a decent mobile phone these days with a brilliant camera and it takes less than 5 minutes to do a few videos and photos of the item from every angle including any serial numbers just before you package it up. Include your eBay account page, e-mails and such so you can prove you were the one taking the video / photographs.

Gumtree on the other hand I'd avoid like the plague; it is the carboot of online buying and selling. People want everything for nothing and even then they don't turn up when they say they will, don't bother letting you know. I've had more issues with Gumtree than anywhere else and I've not been using it more than a few years. It is chock full of time wasters and window lickers. It maybe free but it is free with good reason and that is the only reason I'll use it.
 
I always sell. On ebay.

Gumtree and Facebook is more hassle. With few bites and people backing out.
Plus I find I get more on ebay even with the fees.

Just have to be more caref sometimes
 
People, please stop selling on eBay.

Every other week we seem to have the same problem threads regarding eBay, does nobody learn?
Ebay processes literally millions of transactions a day, so I think a lot of people are not heeding your great advice.
 
People, please stop selling on eBay.

Every other week we seem to have the same problem threads regarding eBay, does nobody learn?

but that is partly because it is such a big popular site

likewise OCUK ship thousands of orders, I suspect part of the reason the customer feedback part of the forum is private is because it could create a false impression... i.e. the 99.9% of people who have no issues with their orders have no need to create a thread (aside form maybe the odd one saying "thanks for the Haribo") and having a load of threads with people complaining just doesn't look good

for every e-bay thread on here there might well have been hundreds or thousands of successful eBay transactions carried out by forum members who didn't post threads
 
I've sold on there over the years faultlessly...until last year. With the two items I sold the buyers wanted endless technical support, both claimed the items to be faulty. One was described as having a fault which despite eBay siding with the buyer I did eventually get reimbursed as he refused to return it. The other I had to endure about a week of explaining to someone how to setup a Cisco phone, even sending them .xml files before he gave up, claimed it was faulty and returned it, I got it working within minutes of it being returned, the guy even asked if I could provide a VAT receipt even though it was a private listing on a 2nd hand item - to coin an OcUK phrase "I AM NOT A SHOP!".

So I do have a somewhat tainted view of selling on there. My advice to the OP though is get as many pictures together as you can and have them returned, for the small amount it comes to it simply isn't worth the hassle, get together video evidence of the returned item being unboxed and if he is trying to pull a fast one report him to eBay.

The problem with eBay processing millions of transactions per day does unfortunately leave them in the position where if one seller stops selling then they know someone else will step in and take over and so it gives them little incentive to protect the seller more than they have to.
 
Ask him to send them back and offer a refund. See his reaction. Did he take pictures?

This. He's obviously changed his mind and doesn't want them anymore.

For the sake of £45 its not worth the hassle eBay will side with whatever he says anyway. Chalk it up to a experience and move on.

People, please stop selling on eBay.

Every other week we seem to have the same problem threads regarding eBay, does nobody learn?

Sure, chuck everything in the bin instead. That'll teach 'em. Screw the money!
 
Indeed, I turn to gumtree first, then if that fails ebay.

Same.

Ebay processes literally millions of transactions a day, so I think a lot of people are not heeding your great advice.

Their potential loss then. If you sell on eBay then expect to be potentially scammed.

Sure, chuck everything in the bin instead. That'll teach 'em. Screw the money!

Who said anything about throwing stuff away?

eBay for myself in the last 7-8 years has been a place where i'll occasionally buy cheap Chinese tat, that's it.

There are far better alternatives to sell stuff like Gumtree, AVForums or even the OcUK forums. Yes it might take a little longer and you might not make as much but i'd rather take that then the hassle of eBay and it's unscrupulous sellers.

Either way, i'm looking forward to seeing no more of these eBay threads as i'm sure most people are now aware that you might lose out.
 
I've sold on there over the years faultlessly...until last year. With the two items I sold the buyers wanted endless technical support, both claimed the items to be faulty. One was described as having a fault which despite eBay siding with the buyer I did eventually get reimbursed as he refused to return it. The other I had to endure about a week of explaining to someone how to setup a Cisco phone, even sending them .xml files before he gave up, claimed it was faulty and returned it, I got it working within minutes of it being returned, the guy even asked if I could provide a VAT receipt even though it was a private listing on a 2nd hand item - to coin an OcUK phrase "I AM NOT A SHOP!".

So I do have a somewhat tainted view of selling on there. My advice to the OP though is get as many pictures together as you can and have them returned, for the small amount it comes to it simply isn't worth the hassle, get together video evidence of the returned item being unboxed and if he is trying to pull a fast one report him to eBay.

The problem with eBay processing millions of transactions per day does unfortunately leave them in the position where if one seller stops selling then they know someone else will step in and take over and so it gives them little incentive to protect the seller more than they have to.
So much this, also read eBay and PayPal t&C's and go the extra, much better chance of winning as the seller.
Far to many eBay always sides with buyer, by then a lot of sellers do not do what they are told.

I find the fees to be the worst bit and why I try selling other places first.
 
The issue with eBay is that anyone with half a brain cell will know that eBay sides with the buyer. If you are that way inclined you can use this to your advantage and generally behave like an imbecile and eBay has your back.

It's entirely likely that this "trader" has found your rare trainers and fancies an upgrade on his damaged pair. It would have been fascinating if you had marked them with a UV pen and then see what eBay do :D
 
People, please stop selling on eBay.

Every other week we seem to have the same problem threads regarding eBay, does nobody learn?

What about all the successful eBay listings created by ocuk members that we never see threads about. I'd wager there a much larger percentage than those whove had issues.

Personally I'm 500 for 1 issue. That's pretty good success rate.

Indeed, I turn to gumtree first, then if that fails ebay.

Christ I've had more of my time wasted by Gumtree buyers than anything else.
 
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