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Geforce GTX 1170 Spotted

Is it just me or is the 1180 just a GDDR6 version of the 1080ti... maybe with a bit more vram and slightly higher clocks?

If it is, how much faster can it be over the old card?
 
How do we know that someone at TechPowerUp isn't just manually typing in some plausible numbers, to get some more views on their banner ads? :p
 
That is a pretty weak 1170 if true. Will barely be faster than the 1080 and way behind the 1180 (3584 vs 2688 shaders).

Then again the 1070 was way below the 1080 (2560 vs 1920 shaders) but at least had the same memory.

If these ratios hold then the 1160 will have 1792 shaders.
 
muon said:
That is a pretty weak 1170 if true. Will barely be faster than the 1080 and way behind the 1180 (3584 vs 2688 shaders).

Then again the 1070 was way below the 1080 (2560 vs 1920 shaders) but at least had the same memory.

If these ratios hold then the 1160 will have 1792 shaders.
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You can't really compare shader counts from a different generation and conclude performance will be lower because of a deficit of cores on the new tech:

980Ti - 2816 Maxwell architecture Cores

1070 - 1920 Pascal architecture Cores

Yet a stock 1070 is slightly faster than a stock 980Ti, so there is a lot more to performance than core counts getting higher on the new cards, because NVIDIA advance the technology and efficiency generation after generation.
 
It makes sense that the next series on 12nm won't have the best performance as Nvidia will sell you a 7nm version 9-12 months later.
 
Spyhop said:
How do we know that someone at TechPowerUp isn't just manually typing in some plausible numbers, to get some more views on their banner ads? :p
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100% this
This site has been proven countless times to post GPU details that are not official.
What a clever way to get more people onto the Web site? Just post GPU data base at times new GPUs are coming.
 
RanxZy said:
You can't really compare shader counts from a different generation and conclude performance will be lower because of a deficit of cores on the new tech:

980Ti - 2816 Maxwell architecture Cores

1070 - 1920 Pascal architecture Cores

Yet a stock 1070 is slightly faster than a stock 980Ti, so there is a lot more to performance than core counts getting higher on the new cards, because NVIDIA advance the technology and efficiency generation after generation.
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Pascal shaders werent that much faster than Maxwell. I think you'll find 90% of the performance came from a massive clock bump. That isn't happening this time.
 
muon said:
Pascal shaders werent that much faster than Maxwell. I think you'll find 90% of the performance came from a massive clock bump. That isn't happening this time.
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This ^

A Volta Titan despite being on a smaller node clocks about the same speed as any of the Pascal cards.

The SP cores on Pascal and Volta give about the same performance.

The Volta Titan gets its performance advantage over the Pascal Titan Xp solely by having 33% more SP cores.

When the gaming versions of NVidia's next gen cards turn up without all the compute cores (Tensor and DP) I think we may see them clocking a tiny bit higher but it won't be a big jump, I don't think we will be seeing them going past 2200mhz.
 
This all points to Nvidia making the gap between the 1170 & 1180 much bigger than is currently the case with the 1070 & 1080 in order to, guess what, move the 1180 into the 1080Ti price segment..:rolleyes:

1180Ti for £999?
 
Kaapstad said:
This ^

A Volta Titan despite being on a smaller node clocks about the same speed as any of the Pascal cards.

The SP cores on Pascal and Volta give about the same performance.

The Volta Titan gets its performance advantage over the Pascal Titan Xp solely by having 33% more SP cores.

When the gaming versions of NVidia's next gen cards turn up without all the compute cores (Tensor and DP) I think we may see them clocking a tiny bit higher but it won't be a big jump, I don't think we will be seeing them going past 2200mhz.
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The Titan V's performance relative to core count/clock speed could still be irrelevant to the new cards, because they are rumoured to be on a different architecture than Volta.

Fact is, neither me nor you know the true architecture advancements in efficiency, performance per clock etc the new cards will bring. It's truly all speculation now, but I guarantee we can't predict performance in any accurate way generation to generation by saying the new cards have a deficit in compute core numbers.
 
I don't expect the performance of any of these cards to be massively faster compared to the last gen. If the 1180 is that much of a leap in performance nVidia would just sell it as a 1180ti.
 
Well I am hoping there are some architectural improvements over Volta, so I do not want to compare it to Volta Titan.

I am expecting 2080/1180 to be at least 20% faster than a 1080Ti and be a lot more efficient running cooler and quieter. Pricing for milk’em edition to be around £6xx. I could be wrong however, I expected a lot more from Vega and was left disappointed.

Also hopefully the 1180 has 16gb standard rather than a 8gb variant and a 16gb. 8gb should be only 1170 and below.
 
Satchfanuk said:
Is it just me or is the 1180 just a GDDR6 version of the 1080ti... maybe with a bit more vram and slightly higher clocks?

If it is, how much faster can it be over the old card?
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50% or more, as you say the 1180 is slightly faster than 1080ti. The 1180 isn't replacing the 1080ti, it is replacing the 1080. SO you will be able to buy a 1180 that is faster than the 1080ti for the same price as the 1080. This is how it always is. The 1080 was a tad faster than the 980ti etc.
 
It won't be slightly, it will be 25-30% more powerful, as the new flagship it needs to be, to get 1080ti people to buy it, just wish we had some news
 
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