How children change mothers ownership rights

This thread is comical for all the wrong reasons. OP, try to have a think about why your estranged partner and unborn child might have a claim to some of your present and future possessions should you decide that it's time for them to jog on out of your life.

I'll give you a clue; it's not my responsibility to support them financially via tax contributions.
 
I don't blame people for not having kids but I do agree that if you have kids the person looking after said kid should get 50pc of the assets regardless of who paid.

I also don't think the mother should necessarily get the kids if the dad wants them.

I also think it's sensible for everyone to know where they stand with this stuff. The divorce rate is high.

But don't have kids if you can't handle the loss of assets.
 
neil_g said:
And if you can't trust your other half not to get pregnant on purpose just for their own gain then move on.
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I had a conversation with one of my female friends. She said she would (as she wants kids so badly) I was absolutely disgusted. I genuinely couldn't someone could want kids so badly as to entrap their partner. I told my gf and thank goodness she was disgusted too!

It wasn't for financial gain, but she said she would want to know who the father is rather than go to a down bank!
 
If you do move in together and later separate and your (ex) partner can show she has a 'beneficial interest' in the property she may be able to get a court to order that she is entitled to some of the proceeds of any sale, that she has the right to stay living at the address or, if you have children, that she should stay living in the address until the children are 18 if this is in the children's best interests......

A beneficial interest is a way of recognising any contribution a partner has made towards an address... For example if everything was in your name but all bills, including the mortgage, are split 50\50 a court is not likely to accept any argument you make that its 'your' home alone and is pretty likely to order you to hand over 50‰ if it's sold or may, if you have children, direct that mother should stay in the address with the children ......

My advice, if you do move in together, is to only split food and utility bills with your partner.....

And make it clear that this is the case.... Keep records......

If your partner is left with money 'spare' in this arrangement vs her current situation maybe agree that she will save/invest it for the future (say for example if you do decide to get married and/ or have children.... )

..... It would also be useful if you split up and she needs a deposit for a new place to rent (maybe don't sell it to her on this basis though!)

If you are only splitting the utility and food bills a court is less likely to consider you partner to have a beneficial interest.

With regards to children you are financially affected whether or not you are living together if you split up...... but as above could also end up losing the home you are paying the mortgage on in the worse case scenario if you are cohabiting .....

Ignore the comments about trusting your partner..... Simple fact is the overwhelming majority of relationships fail..... It's perfectly sensible to want to understand your financial position in a relationship and make plans in case it does all go wrong......

More info on cohabiting can be found here....

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/f...ving-together-and-marriage-legal-differences/
 
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If you live with someone and they call it their home and contribute in any way to the relationship, not just financial, then they are entitled to something.

They're not just going to kick her out for you because you pay the bills.
 
Guest2 said:
I don't like asking this but I'll fire anyway as I would like to know for a few years down the line...

I am currently in rented accommodation and have a girlfriend of 8 months, she does not live with me in the rented accommodation. She does not want children yet and neither do I however I sometimes get the impression she is only saying she doesn't want kids because she knows I don't. Not saying I don't in future, just the time is not right at the moment.

I'm buying my own place which is in early stages but hopefully I'll be moving in in around 8 weeks. She cannot afford to buy with me, nor contribute towards the deposit, so the house is solely in my name. We have discussed and might have a 'trial run' to see if we can handle each other for a few weeks, after she might become a lodger and contribute towards food/bills.

If say, she was to become pregnant, would this change her 'ownership' of the property in any such way? I have read stories of guys getting screwed over by their partners when their girlfriends just happen to become pregnant when they come into (har har...) money or get their own house

...it's a trap. maybe
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From my experience and seing the situations of friends in similar situations..

If you own a house in your name, that house is yours.. Your girlfriend (wife is different) has no rights to the property if she was to leave you, or visa versa.

You will always have an obligation to support the child though, this is tested vs your net income and obligations.. Assets may contribute towards this cost, but this is purely for the care of the child.
 
Sorry.. I just realised you're not married. She has very little claim to your property in that case, but the child will of course be top priority for any court dealing with the case.

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What a horrible position to find yourself having to ponder.

Been with my now wife 12 years, lived together for 8 and it's just never crossed my mind we were not on the same team.

Trust your gut, know your rights and good luck.
 
terley said:
If you own a house in your name, that house is yours.. Your girlfriend (wife is different) has no rights to the property if she was to leave you, or visa versa.
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This is bad, incorrect advice...

As I previously posted if a person has paid money whilst cohabiting towards a property they may well have a financial claim on it regadless of whoose name is on the mortgage etc.....

5 second research shows this to be the case....

Even if my name isn’t on the property deeds, do I have any rights?

Where an individual is not named on the title register to a property but has paid towards the purchase price, mortgage or renovation costs together with their partner, who is the registered owner, does that individual have any property rights?

The short answer is yes, you may well have rights.
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Hence my previous post suggesting the op specifically exclude his girlfriend from paying towards the costs for the address itself (principally the mortgage in this case).
 
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I Can't help but laugh at your terminology in your OP, "lodger", "Trial run". LOL :D

Sorry, I have nothing constructive to add.
 
OP if she currently doesn't live with you then just keep on with the current arrangement of visiting each other a couple of nights a week. You have only been together for 8 months so just wait until your ready to move in together.
 
The case of Burns vs Burns [1984] (who despite their names where never married) is relevant here

The judgment of the case was that in the absence of a financial contribution which could be related to the acquisition to the property such as mortgage installments there is no right to a beneficial entitlement to a family home. This decision was affirmed by the Lords Justice Waller, Foxand May in the Court of appeal
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Make sure its clear that she isn't contributing towards the mortgage be that explicitly or by implication (by for example paying you or transferring into a joint account an amount exceeding her half of the food, utility bills etc)
 
Stay seperate until you have kids. After kids then you're committed to supporting them anyway (and rightly so).
 
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