Man who urged Prince George attack admits terror charges

gross.
I hope he gets life....what a deluded individual.

again if you don't like it here, why not spend the same amount of energy improving your life situation instead of plotting to hurt others.
 
Surely in instances like this for the safety of other inmates and to prevent further radicalization and possible terror attacks we should be able to send him to some third world country and serve his crime there, let them punish him in what ever way they see fit.
 
Acme said:
Yep... The death penalty for treason should be re-instated.
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Here we go... I'll only quote this once. (mildly relevant, and only mildly, but it does what i want it to do)

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Because inevitably you cannot control what someone does in the future, you shouldn't make the state responsible in this manner.

Was what happened in the lead up to 2008 treason? Was Iraq's blatant lie a treasonous affair? What about Westland Affair? or protecting the bloody paedos in parliament?
 
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Acme said:
Yep... The death penalty for treason should be re-instated.
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I wouldn't go that far but I definitely think we should have a different type of prison where terrorist types are sent so they're not in the main prison system where they can radicalise lost souls.
 
nashathedog said:
I wouldn't go that far but I definitely think we should have a different type of prison where terrorist types are sent so they're not in the main prison system where they can radicalise lost souls.
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What you're talking about preventing is already incredibly rare. Not least because of the already well managed methods in place for preventing such occurrence but also because 'radicalising lost souls' is not an easy thing to do. It requires an incredible amount of aptitude, circumstance and time - the latter two are made more difficult than people presume when inside a prison. 'Radicalising lost souls' is also even harder to do with people who have the wherewithal to be coming out of their confinement any time soon and in a position to act upon their radicalisation.

It's been blown out of proportion by media and those with an agenda. There's simply no need to do anything other than what is already being done and the people in charge of it are no less thoughtful than you are when taking into consideration possible dangers.
 
arctine said:
This is one of the most ridiculous and backward things I've read on GD.
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Jolly good. ;)

Don't see the issue with beheading someone who is conspiring to murder innocent people to be honest. Roll the heads. Perhaps they'll think twice about it.
 
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arctine said:
What you're talking about preventing is already incredibly rare. Not least because of the already well managed methods in place for preventing such occurrence but also because 'radicalising lost souls' is not an easy thing to do. It requires an incredible amount of aptitude, circumstance and time - the latter two are made more difficult than people presume when inside a prison. 'Radicalising lost souls' is also even harder to do with people who have the wherewithal to be coming out of their confinement any time soon and in a position to act upon their radicalisation.

It's been blown out of proportion by media and those with an agenda. There's simply no need to do anything other than what is already being done and the people in charge of it are no less thoughtful than you are when taking into consideration possible dangers.
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Can you provide more evidence for that point of view? The idea of radicalisation in prison sounds entirely plausible to me.
 
Off on a tangent...if recipes for making ricin are available online (that's one of the reasons he was convicted of terrorism charges), why haven't we seen any attacks using it?
 
Acme said:
Jolly good. ;)

Don't see the issue with beheading someone who is conspiring to murder innocent people to be honest. Roll the heads. Perhaps they'll think twice about it.
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That's exactly the response they want and probably the most stupid thing that could be done. If we did that they'd all be on the news jumping and pointing at the "Barbaric UK beheading criminals".
 
nashathedog said:
I wouldn't go that far but I definitely think we should have a different type of prison where terrorist types are sent so they're not in the main prison system where they can radicalise lost souls.
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The US did something similar in Iraq, and created ISIS. You don't really want to stick a bunch of similarly minded people together in one place as they tend to network.

Certainly however, some way of isolating their ideology from the general prison population is a good idea.
 
Amp34 said:
The US did something similar in Iraq, and created ISIS. You don't really want to stick a bunch of similarly minded people together in one place as they tend to network.

Certainly however, some way of isolating their ideology from the general prison population is a good idea.
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It's not a problem unless you let them out again though.....
 
Angilion said:
Off on a tangent...if recipes for making ricin are available online (that's one of the reasons he was convicted of terrorism charges), why haven't we seen any attacks using it?
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This terrorism is so commonplace now it's easy to miss the latest events:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...l-ricin-terror-plot-arrest-egyptian-brothers/

"Police in France have foiled a suspected terror attack and handed preliminary terrorism charges to a man of Egyptian origin.

Earlier, French interior minister, Gerard Collomb said that two men had been arrested for "preparing to commit an attack, with either explosives or ricin, this very powerful poison".

He said police identified the two suspects while tracking extremist activity on social networks.

"They had tutorials that showed how to make ricin-based poisons," Mr Collomb told BFM TV, adding that they had communicated via the Telegram encrypted messaging application.

"We were able to detect them, detect this attack plan and were able to arrest them," he said.

It is unclear how police were able to decipher their Telegram exchanges given its reputedly impenetrable nature.

Later, judicial sources said one of the men was released without charged. The other, a 20-year-old student and illegal immigrant known only as Mohamed M, ran a "particularly active account in the pro-jihadist sphere", said the source.

Police raided his flat and found a stash of gunpowder taken from bangers as well as a computer containing bomb-making tutorials, as well as a video on how to use ricin."


During questioning, the suspect "spontaneously acknowledged having consulted jihadist propaganda and explained that an as yet unidentified individual on the encrypted messaging app Telegram told him to buy the stock of bangers to make a bomb and to take action in France," he said.


He then "sought to play down the seriousness of his acts," said the source. However, he added: "Contrary to his statements, analysis (of his equipment and accounts) revealed that in reality he had accept to undertake this mission and that he was also ready to die a martyr by blowing himself up".

He was "very determined", said the source.

He and the other man had been arrested in the northern 18th arrondissement of Paris on May 11."




I have no idea how easy or hard it is to produce ricin outside of a well equipped laboratory, but suspect it might be one of the easier "nasties" to home brew.
 
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