Learner drivers now allowed on motorway after law change

You’ll have quite a long lesson to get to a motorway from Ipswich!

I think this is a good idea - I dread encountering new drivers with P plates on motorways as they are usually a danger to themselves and those around them (at least they make themselves identifiable though)

I do feel it should be compulsory rather than at the instructors discretion.

Long overdue.
I will be doing 2 hour lessons :)
 
Always found it odd that driving on a motorway wasn't a part of lessons and tests.

Good idea imo!
 
Given large chunks of the country are nowhere near a motorway, I would have thought it was fairly obvious why motorway driving isn't part of the test.

Fair enough... But at least give learners the option to jump onto a motorway.
 
Got directed onto a large dual carriageway during my lessons about 10 years ago to have a go at overtaking and getting comfortable with higher speed.

Not exactly a massive leap to say motorways are also ok.
 
This has always been bizarre because arguably dual carriageways are more dangerous than Motorways and learners have always been permitted on those.

Dual carriageways have no or a smaller hard shoulder, tighter corners, steeper hills, shorter sliproads, traffic turning across them and yet in the main have the same speed limit as a Motorway.
 
This has always been bizarre because arguably dual carriageways are more dangerous than Motorways and learners have always been permitted on those.

Dual carriageways have no or a smaller hard shoulder, tighter corners, steeper hills, shorter sliproads, traffic turning across them and yet in the main have the same speed limit as a Motorway.

My thoughts entirely. IIRC a lot of people thought the same in the old thread.

They were talking about this on the radio and again, people agreed that due to how many dual carriageways are used that it's strange that this has not come sooner.
 
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I agree with this - boring but don't see the issue.
But then my wife came along and being a Londoner she had never driven on a motorway, just about managed dual carriageways with the various A roads in London.
I coached her when we went on drives on the motorway and it dawned on me some of the issues people have.
Mainly but no limited to
  1. Spatial awareness - knowing how big your car is and when to switch lanes
  2. MOMENTUM! - this was a big one, wifey thought that its ok to slow down when switching lanes jackiechanwtf.jpg
  3. Plan ahead - looking as far ahead as possible to maintain speed etc was a new thing
  4. Small input = big change - wife learned this the hard way when changing lanes yanking the wheel about and wasnt ready for how the car reacted
  5. Don't use the brakes for no reason - I kinda drilled this into her as I hate it when people brake for no reason as it causes others to brake and so on - plan ahead and maintain speed!
Think that was it for now, oh also the fear of big things - trucks, busses, vans, birds...

Planning ahead is probably the key factor when driving on motorways. It's not a 30mph road where everyone is typically doing the same speeds, you'll have a range of vehicles doing anywhere from 50mph upto 80mph+, so imo planning ahead is the biggest factor when safely driving. You may actually need to slow down prior to overtaking if you've closed the gap between yourself and the vehicle in front, and are unable to overtake as the outside lane is congested, but most times that can be mitigated by planning ahead (i.e. knowing there's a slow moving vehicle much further ahead that you'll eventually need to overtake). That can also help with avoiding to have to keep applying the brakes all the time.
 
Are bikers on 125's on L plates allowed on motorways now then? Used to have to do a short detour on my bike in Newcastle to get through the centre without going onto the short section of motorway in the centre of the city.
 
Are bikers on 125's on L plates allowed on motorways now then? Used to have to do a short detour on my bike in Newcastle to get through the centre without going onto the short section of motorway in the centre of the city.

No, they're allowed on dual carriageways though. Which is mental.
 
The issue isn't the bikes. A 125cc standard from a dealer can quite happily top about 58-60 on flat ground. The issue is the level of training of someone having come from a CBT. Personally I did my CBT twice before doing my full test and neither time did I go on a dual carriageway during it. I agree with the above sentiment that dual carriageways are in fact more dangerous due to layouts and design than motorways in general, though not necessarily when you add an extra lane or two. I regularly ride my 125 on both as I often commute on it for funs and the fact that it costs practically nothing to run. However, there is no mistaking that someone having only done a days training on a vehicle that is light and has a lack of power and top speed is vulnerable on dual carriageway and motorways, due to that lack of training and experience. Imho CBT needs overhauled and tightened up to possibly include a test.
 
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Expect to see a few stopped cars at the end of merge sliplanes because they've ran out of road with hesitation :D

I actually saw that once a few years back at Meadowhall on the M1 before the layout was changed, car in front got to the end of the sliproad stopped made sure nothing was coming then set off again.
 
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