Nvidia - Anti-Competitive, Anti-Consumer, Anti-Technology

[bru]

Of course the 9700pro was a good card, it shook up the market and brought good performance and a great feature set to the gaming scene, we Dont need the adored TV defence team to post every conclusion to every review, to demonstrate that.
It was just a point that Jim picked one benchmark when as I showed it was possible to equally cherry pick a result from the same review that wasn't as favourable.

As for his voice, well there is something about it that just grates on me, certainly not an intentional slight against the Scottish people, definitely would not want to do that, as j have a couple of friends with quite thick scotus accents that would have my guts for garters if they thought that is what I meant.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Chill fella. I just summarised your wall of text and also made a light hearted reference to the history lesson.


I’ve been around here for years - longer than you.

I have been on UK forums about the same amount of time though and lurked on forums even longer. I had the Geforce 4 TI4200(IIRC) and the 9000 series was the first ATI card I bought - its basic DX9 implementation was so solid,I remember they were still relevant for years afterwards. Nvidia did fight back well with the 6000 series though - those unlockable 6800LE cards were pretty good if you got a good one(I had one which fully unlocked),and they supported DX9C.

 

[Troezar]

Some funny stuff on here again. Nice to see with all the uncertainty in the world there are some constants still ; )

There is one useful aspect to these threads, it gives you a clearer picture of whose advice you should lend more weight to.

 

[Kaapstad]

Just totally wasted an hour watching the video

Can this guy spell for starters Latin Invidia is not the same as English NVidia.

What I got from the video is NVidia are very naughty boys which we all knew already.

The guy is very very biased as by his own admission he has not bought an NVidia card in the last 10 years. In the last decade NVidia have produced some very good cards and to avoid buying them says something about the neutrality of the author of the video.

At this point I would like to thank my mate Ron Bacardi for helping me get through the video, I could not have done it without his help.

 

[D.P.]

Just totally wasted an hour watching the video

Can this guy spell for starters Latin Invidia is not the same as English NVidia.

What I got from the video is NVidia are very naughty boys which we all knew already.

The guy is very very biased as by his own admission he has not bought an NVidia card in the last 10 years. In the last decade NVidia have produced some very good cards and to avoid buying them says something about the neutrality of the author of the video.

At this point I would like to thank my mate Ron Bacardi for helping me get through the video, I could not have done it without his help.

Half the stuff he says is blatantly false or easily disproven in 2 minutes on Google. It then makes the rest of his garbage hard to believe in the slightest and even when he tells the truth it is never some insightful analysis of unknown Nvidia horrors but same old garbage everyone knows about, or conveniently ignores the fact that AMD is just as guilty in many instances.

He is a raging AMD fanboy, with exactly zero inside knowledge or any technical understanding of GPUs, software development or the nature of big business. He appeals to a certain type of poster for good reasons.

 

[kitfit1]

Just totally wasted an hour watching the video

Can this guy spell for starters Latin Invidia is not the same as English NVidia.

What I got from the video is NVidia are very naughty boys which we all knew already.

The guy is very very biased as by his own admission he has not bought an NVidia card in the last 10 years. In the last decade NVidia have produced some very good cards and to avoid buying them says something about the neutrality of the author of the video.

At this point I would like to thank my mate Ron Bacardi for helping me get through the video, I could not have done it without his help.

Yep, sat through that lot with the help of Mr Merlot last night. That's an hour of my life i'll never get back
We all know the tricks Nvidia have got up to over the years, there really was nothing new or unknown in the video. In fact, substitute Intel for Nvidia and it might as well have been the same video.

 

[TNA]

Maybe, pfft, pot, kettle,

I know, at least I am honest

No worries mate I even have an Intel CPU.
That was bday self present :/ Had initially ordered a Vega 64 LC on the day they came out on sale at OCUK, but there was no stock having to wait weeks for after my birthday and didn't want Sapphire because I was going to WC it.
Also the 1080Ti barely worked three weeks since mid December. I was either on holidays (more than two months) or using the laptop because contracting in London & Stoke for three months.
And funny enough you will find haven't posted anything on the benchmarks threads here, because I havent overclocked it, but once just to 2036 when I got it and used it some times when playing TWW2 last year. Since then is stock with custom curve to keep it cool.
The 1989-1999 stock boost clock is very powerful for the strategy games I play (Stellaris, EUIV) or WOT/WOWS.

And the GTX 1080Ti has annoyed me for no reason other than I feel no need spending hours or days to create a curve for it. Did it on the 1080 hitting 2190 and feeling proud, or the FuryX with 1190 core took quite a tweaking or the Nano with 1150 core. But 1080Ti is no sport and always wanted to sell it and grab a Vega but until few weeks ago Vega had issues with Stellaris and HOI IV so had to keep it.
You could say this card was feeling like burden

Hence after selling the FuryX and Nano last night, going to grab a new reference Vega 64 for WC this or next week, and put on sale the 1080Ti again at the reduced price had it on MM until last night.
Vega 64 imho is more sport for me and looking forward to put my hands on the P states and see what I can do with it.

I had to uninstall Stellaris. One minute you start playing, next minute you look up and 4 hours have passed by... Great game. I see lots of new updates and content has come out for it since I last played it about a year ago. Might reinstall it at some point when I get the time

You will have a lot of fun with Vega then, that card can be tweaked a lot

 

[TNA]

Defending your mate,then?? Why does he need to mention an old card then - you never question that??

He moans about the YouTuber in question "cherry picking" stuff,then goes onto "cherry pick" stuff himself to re-invent history in the form of alternate facts. Even Nvidia made fun of its cards of that era.

Yet on this very forum if people said the 8800GTX was a beast,or the Geforce 3 was great,nobody would question it - none are relevant today. I have never seen anyone here,then interject and tell people its an old card. Even people on here go on about 3DFX cards FFS.

It seems for some,if ATI or AMD made good cards,they need to bury that. In my viewpoint,they should not bother trying to target higher end cards,just stick with budget stuff.



The problem,is Panos,when that chap you replied to even says the "9700 PRO was not special" when literally 9/10 of reviews of the time,said it was fantastic,when months later the FX ended up getting meh reviews,and even Valve themselves even pushed for ATI cards,as they ran DX9 better,all on a card made on an older node,that answers your question already.

Now compare that to the similar situation on the ATI side - the 8800GTX and 2900XT. The 8800GTX is considered legendary for its era and nobody would really question it.

Everytime Nvidia makes a good card,people are happy to have nostalgia,ie,the 8800GTX was a beast,but any ATI/AMD equivalents,well they were "not so special". So as a result,however ATI/AMD might try with good cards,it won't work,and Nvidia can then paper over any situations where they might misfire.

ATI/AMD graphics had a reputation problem it even going back over 10 years,even when they hit stuff out of the park and the competition misfired,so ultimately its not really any point of them competing at the high end.

Compare that to the Athlon and Athlon 64,no one would ever doubt they were great during that era. I suspect most want them to compete,so the price of the Nvidia cards will drop. Ultimately its best they stick to the budget end really - high end gaming is a fools errand for them. I said this for a while. Its wasted money and resources.

OTH,their CPUs seem to have far less reputation issues it appears,so it seems they made the clever choice there.

The 9700 is probably the card I have the fondest memories for. Was my first expensive card and I remember bios modding it to make it a pro saving around £100

Whining about a Scottish accent in a UK forum in 2018, doubt I'd hear anyone moaning if it was any other accent as racism would be mentioned, unfortunately it's not just you, it happens every time in here he releases a vid.

I think it is probably the nvidia fans who do that

I actually think his accent has helped him.

 

[rtho782]

I had to uninstall Stellaris. One minute you start playing, next minute you look up and 4 hours have passed by... Great game. I see lots of new updates and content has come out for it since I last played it about a year ago. Might reinstall it at some point when I get the time

I have about 1000 hours in Stellaris but have barely touched it since 2.0. Every so often I try to go back, like when Distant Stars came out, but it's just crap now

 

[Panos]

I know, at least I am honest




I had to uninstall Stellaris. One minute you start playing, next minute you look up and 4 hours have passed by... Great game. I see lots of new updates and content has come out for it since I last played it about a year ago. Might reinstall it at some point when I get the time

You will have a lot of fun with Vega then, that card can be tweaked a lot

The game has completely changed with 2.0 patch. As for the time passing, heh, CK2 & EUIV are the same.
You start at 8pm and suddenly is 6am.

 

[mjallan123]

The guy is very very biased as by his own admission he has not bought an NVidia card in the last 10 years. In the last decade NVidia have produced some very good cards and to avoid buying them says something about the neutrality of the author of the video.

How does this make him biased? He refuses to buy nVidia cards, even though they perform very well, because he doesn't like their business practices. That's being principled, not biased.

Half the stuff he says is blatantly false or easily disproven in 2 minutes on Google.

50% of the stuff he says is blatently false? Can you give specifics on a false claim in this video and a link to where it proves that it's false please?

 

[Smffy]

Ah this thread

 

[iB CoMpL3XiTy]

when he tells the truth it is never some insightful analysis of unknown Nvidia horrors but same old garbage everyone knows about

This is hilarious, So when he rightly pulls up nvidia on their dodgy tactics it's garbage because "everyone" knows about it? well perhaps us forum members know about some of their shenanigans but the vast majority don't. It's not all old either, 970(3.5GB), 1030(DDR4), 1060 3GB(Cutdown, not just less VRAM), MX150. GPP, which was spouted by nvidia to be about transparency, which is quite funny when you look at the issues I just mentioned.

 

[sideways14a]

Pretty much everything he has said is true, you might not like it but i dont see much in the way of misinformation in his videos.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

Just one other thing, that was mentioned earlier in this thread. what Jim of AdoredTV did to Ryan Shrout was unbelievably out of order, and Jim had to take action to stop the incited violence by posting that he never wanted anyone to threaten or harm the Shrout family. So close to breaking the Swedish anti hate law, it wasn't funny.

What did he do ? Im new this this.

Adored tends to quotes stats and figures and twist and ignore some of to fit his agenda, his video complaining about the lack of performance jump per generation was case and point of this. The question was valid but ignored some of his own research.

Just seem to like to fan the flames his target viewership seems to be the like of wccftech commenters.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

This is hilarious, So when he rightly pulls up nvidia on their dodgy tactics it's garbage because "everyone" knows about it? well perhaps us forum members know about some of their shenanigans but the vast majority don't. It's not all old either, 970(3.5GB), 1030(DDR4), 1060 3GB(Cutdown, not just less VRAM), MX150. GPP, which was spouted by nvidia to be about transparency, which is quite funny when you look at the issues I just mentioned.

AMD/ATI have done shady stuff as well ya know

 

[bru]

What did he do ? Im new this this.

Ryan Shrout of PCper also had another company Shrout research, which was paid by Intel to do research for them.
In a video about all of this and how biased it made Ryan shrout's PCper look, with any thing to do with AMD, which I must say it did indeed look very dodgy, our delectable Jim of AdoredTV, before giving Ryan any time to defend or even comment on it, he posted up Ryans home address, to which Ryans has received death threats and it has put all of Ryans family, directly in harms way.
Now the sensible of us, a bit disgruntled by Ryan Shrout and PCper, just stop viewing their content, but dear ole Jim gets away scot free and by many on here is still seen by many as the truth teller of the internet.


Edit: Upon further investigation, it appears that I was incorrect, so apologies to Jim from AdoredTV

 

[Kaapstad]

How does this make him biased? He refuses to buy nVidia cards, even though they perform very well, because he doesn't like their business practices. That's being principled, not biased

A principle is being biased.

 

[jigger]

Nvidia could do with a change of leadership. They are a terrible firm and toxic to the industry.

 

[Feoilban]

He is a raging AMD fanboy, with exactly zero inside knowledge or any technical understanding of GPUs, software development or the nature of big business. He appeals to a certain type of poster for good reasons.

Says the resident NVIDIA fanboy