Sun tan in the uk

They days of working on building sites in the summer in days of yore, now it is all factor this and cover up that.
Wonder how long it will be before we are born, immediately covered in cotton wool and inserted in a hermetically sealed bubble to spend our lives protected from all the evils in the natural world?
 
As somebody who doesn't spend a huge amount of time in the sun, but had a malignant carcinoma carved out of my arm 3 years ago (and having a mother who also had a malignant melanoma removed in the same year), you should be taking better care of your child's skin.

I'll raise my child. Thanks for your concern. I would never expose him to super hot temps without protection, but short periods in heat that isn't too bad wont do any harm.
We're talking CANCER here. Overexposure to UV rays causes cancer...it's not some kind of conspiracy, it's medical fact. Taking the risks of not using lotion on yourself is totally your choice, but to deliberately expose your children to the risk of getting cancer (and then brag about it on the internet) is just straight up irresponsible.

Hardly bragging. You do realize vitamin D is an important and essential vitamin yes? I don't leave him for hours on end in the sun, with no protection. We are talking an hour in relative heat (arms only on show (and shins)). Holiday he has factor 50. Hot days here where he is in the sun for a long time he is well taken care of.

Maybe you should take care of yourself better before preaching to others.
 
Temperature and UV index are 2 different things btw.


I fear the kid is already cooked. Eat margarine. Your body makes another Vit D. just being in daylight a few hours a day.
 
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Those of spouting about vitamin D, if it's so important to you, why don't you supplement it? As for saying its "no harm", well, any tan at all is skin damage, and will increase the likelihood of cancer. The harm done is much more pronounced for young people, especially kids. If you for some reason actually want tanned skin and don't want to use fake tan (I genuinely don't get why it comes with a stigma), then by all means expose yourself to the sun. Just don't come on here and deny the scientifically proven damage that it does.
 
I'll raise my child. Thanks for your concern. I would never expose him to super hot temps without protection, but short periods in heat that isn't too bad wont do any harm.


Hardly bragging. You do realize vitamin D is an important and essential vitamin yes? I don't leave him for hours on end in the sun, with no protection. We are talking an hour in relative heat (arms only on show (and shins)). Holiday he has factor 50. Hot days here where he is in the sun for a long time he is well taken care of.

Maybe you should take care of yourself better before preaching to others.

Majority of lifetime UV exposure occurs <18 years of age so you are potentially setting your child up for premature skin aging and yes being more susceptible to cancer. Most visual skin aging is down to sun exposure. It's not just about "super hot temps".
 
Majority of lifetime UV exposure occurs <18 years of age so you are potentially setting your child up for premature skin aging and yes being more susceptible to cancer. Most visual skin aging is down to sun exposure. It's not just about "super hot temps".

Well actually majority sun exposure happens at <19years of age
 
Yea temperature has little factor at all, it's about the light levels, you can be in the north pole on the middle of summer and any unprotected skin will get serious sunburn, despite it being -20c or whatever.

I read today that apparently whilst you can get sunburned through clouds as UV goes through, the usable light for getting a tan doesn't, so it's completely pointless trying to get a tan through clouds.

Also I love sitting in the sun but always put a hat on to keep it off your face, sun in your face ages you plus your face general gets colour anyway, it's almost unavoidable. In fact I know some people put low factor SPF on their face, every day.
 
Insolation at 7pm even at this time of year is fairly low compared to peak hours.

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I do find it odd the lengths some people go to for a tan. If you want a tan, surely slap on some appropriate factor sun-cream and do some outdoor stuff on the weekend like washing the car, gardening, exercise or BBQ.

Also thanks for posting that chart, was pretty much what I was looking for and kinda more or less what I had thought in my head.

Basically after about 6 or so little is going through. I work in an office but finish a little early so get home at 5. So I guess about an hour or so is worth it. I sit out here put planet rock on and have a beer, so not just doing it for the tan, also relaxing.
 
Depends on your skin type.

Some people tan very quickly. Others not. Some people have a "burning" higher than others. Age too I believe plays a factor.

One thing I am very against is slapping tonnes of factor 50 on children in the UK. If temps go 25C or more fair enough, or if you are abroad in high twenties and 30's (Cape Verde at 38/39 was a toughie) also, fair game.

My son will be out quite happily in low twenties with no factor on for quite a while. I only use sun tan lotion when abroad and usually for first day or second only or if going out on an excursion. Beyond that, plant mode activated

Do you have any science to actually back these claims up? Or is this simply a RaohNS knows best post?

From what I'm led to believe by my sister (who is a dermatologist) you're talking rubbish, but if you have some good knowledge on the subject I am happy to be better informed.
 
Depends on your skin type.

Some people tan very quickly. Others not. Some people have a "burning" higher than others. Age too I believe plays a factor.

One thing I am very against is slapping tonnes of factor 50 on children in the UK. If temps go 25C or more fair enough, or if you are abroad in high twenties and 30's (Cape Verde at 38/39 was a toughie) also, fair game.

My son will be out quite happily in low twenties with no factor on for quite a while. I only use sun tan lotion when abroad and usually for first day or second only or if going out on an excursion. Beyond that, plant mode activated

Lol retarded post is retarded.
 
Yea I like having a sun tan, just trying to figure out if I'm wasting my time sitting out at 7pm in the evening if your like only getting 5% of the usuable light that you would get at midday.

It's never wasting time - enjoy it. The sun, as long as you're using sun cream, is great for your body (and mind). Life's not about having brown skin and radiating white teeth.

Wait....
 
Do you have any science to actually back these claims up? Or is this simply a RaohNS knows best post?

From what I'm led to believe by my sister (who is a dermatologist) you're talking rubbish, but if you have some good knowledge on the subject I am happy to be better informed.

1) skin type - proven (https://www.cancer.org/cancer/skin-cancer/prevention-and-early-detection/sun-damage.html - second paragraph iirc)
2) some people tan quickly - proven (https://www.cancer.org/cancer/skin-cancer/prevention-and-early-detection/sun-damage.html)
3) some people can tolerate higher heat/sun exposure before burning - proven (https://www.cancer.org/cancer/skin-cancer/prevention-and-early-detection/sun-damage.html)
4) wearing spf in high temps is good for safety - proven
5) son goes out for an hour in low twenties in tshirt and shorts. If staying out longer spf goes on
6) my choice to do

What's the issue exactly?

Edit: Just noticed as well... Is it you who are a dermatologist because your sister is? I know someone.... Which makes me an expert...

Lol retarded post is retarded.

See the above and in what way?
 
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You can't tan in 2 days, what you think is a tan is just a mild burn. You should be wearing sunscreen for the whole of a short holiday to a hot place
 
I'm sure I read a while ago you only need 30 minutes in the sun for your daily intake of Vit D, Myself being a pale dude I get fried pretty easily.
 
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1) skin type - proven (https://www.cancer.org/cancer/skin-cancer/prevention-and-early-detection/sun-damage.html - second paragraph iirc)
2) some people tan quickly - proven (https://www.cancer.org/cancer/skin-cancer/prevention-and-early-detection/sun-damage.html)
3) some people can tolerate higher heat/sun exposure before burning - proven (https://www.cancer.org/cancer/skin-cancer/prevention-and-early-detection/sun-damage.html)
4) wearing spf in high temps is good for safety - proven
5) son goes out for an hour in low twenties in tshirt and shorts. If staying out longer spf goes on
6) my choice to do

What's the issue exactly?

Edit: Just noticed as well... Is it you who are a dermatologist because your sister is? I know someone.... Which makes me an expert...



See the above and in what way?

Because you're conflating temperature and the need for sunscreen. Two wholly independent things.
 
Because you're conflating temperature and the need for sunscreen. Two wholly independent things.

You're doing what?

My statements (excepting 5 and 6 which is personal choice) are there on Cancer.org.

You will also notice my link covers environmental factors too, just in case you want to conflate some more.
 
You're doing what?

My statements (excepting 5 and 6 which is personal choice) are there on Cancer.org.

You will also notice my link covers environmental factors too, just in case you want to conflate some more.

Do I have to quote you again?
 
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