NVIDIA Looks to Gag Journalists with Multi-Year Blanket NDAs

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[humbug]

You have a lot of energy to bash nvidia

They make great GPU's, i'm so impressed with them my current and previous GPU are both nVidia, i think AMD's current GPU's are overprice and under developed, hence i own nVidia, they are just plainly better.

See how easy, and refreshing actually it is not be be completely deluded?

 

[D.P.]

I know, welcome to the club

 

[humbug]

I know, welcome to the club

nVidia as a company are almost predatory in their nature of how they conduct their business, they treat their user base as low intelligence cash cows, AMD in that regard are no saints, no company is but nVidia take it to extremes. they have so little respect for their user base they don't even try anymore to do anything to win hearts and minds and be a successful company in that way, all they understand is how can we cheat our user base to pilfer more money from them.

 

[jigger]

NDA do not silence press, no journalist has to sign one. Worst comes to the worst they wait to release day and review cards as normal.

The threat of litigation will. Being under contract for 5 years tips the balance.

 

[Martini1991]

No need to be facetious.

So I'll consider you a Subject Matter Expert and ask you the same question: am I incorrect in thinking that an NDA must define explicitly the scope of what is considered confidential information? Does the NDA discussed here sufficiently do this? Is "any and all" information without reference to a product/technology/event/whatever tightly defined enough to not fall foul of points 1 and 3 raised in D.P.'s linked article?

I don't care about this situation either way, however I've only ever signed one NDA tech wise in a review capacity and it wasn't specific to a product etc.

For me this NDA is to stop "speculation articles" that's actually rooted in fact.

I always find it bizarre when techpowerup etc post speculative articles when they more than likely have actual knowledge of things.

 

[D.P.]

nVidia as a company are almost predatory in their nature of how they conduct their business, they treat their user base as low intelligence cash cows, AMD in that regard are no saints, no company is but nVidia take it to extremes. they have so little respect for their user base they don't even try anymore to do anything to win hearts and minds and be a successful company in that way, all they understand is how can we cheat our user base to pilfer more money from them.

See, I don;t think nvidia is extreme at all, just typical of any successful company. No different to supermarkets, department stores, phone manufactures, car makers, the likes of Samsung, Sony, Microsoft, Tescos, Amazon, Ford, Unilever. AMD is not really any different, they just fail at excution and so use different approaches. AMD will happily lie to sell products. It is not black and white, all shades of grey. Perhaps AMD is slightly lighter tone of grey, but to me it doesn't matter. Within a capitalist system this is the natural outcome.

However Nvidia treats their customers doesn't actually seem to mater because their sales figures prove otherwise. Customers dont; care about NDA, open-source, propriety. They care about performance and out-of-box experience without fuss.

 

[Martini1991]

See, I don;t think nvidia is extreme at all, just typical of any successful company. No different to supermarkets, department stores, phone manufactures, car makers, the likes of Samsung, Sony, Microsoft, Tescos, Amazon, Ford, Unilever. AMD is not really any different, they just fail at excution and so use different approaches. AMD will happily lie to sell products. It is not black and white, all shades of grey. Perhaps AMD is slightly lighter tone of grey, but to me it doesn't matter. Within a capitalist system this is the natural outcome.

However Nvidia treats their customers doesn't actually seem to mater because their sales figures prove otherwise. Customers dont; care about NDA, open-source, propriety. They care about performance and out-of-box experience without fuss.

This is pretty much a well rounded post.
I think it's pretty much based in reality that AMD are a lighter shade of grey, but neither are black and white. The 1030 GDDR4 card debacle on here is no different to when AMD had GDDR3 versions of a card that also had GDDR5 (Obviously resulting in a throttled card) but despite it being something both companies do, it's being mentioned as yet another Nvidia "crime".

 

[jigger]

See, I don;t think nvidia is extreme at all, just typical of any successful company. No different to supermarkets, department stores, phone manufactures, car makers, the likes of Samsung, Sony, Microsoft, Tescos, Amazon, Ford, Unilever. AMD is not really any different, they just fail at excution and so use different approaches. AMD will happily lie to sell products. It is not black and white, all shades of grey. Perhaps AMD is slightly lighter tone of grey, but to me it doesn't matter. Within a capitalist system this is the natural outcome.

However Nvidia treats their customers doesn't actually seem to mater because their sales figures prove otherwise. Customers dont; care about NDA, open-source, propriety. They care about performance and out-of-box experience without fuss.

The financial incentive for buying graphics cards has now gone. People care again.

 

[D.P.]

I don't care about this situation either way, however I've only ever signed one NDA tech wise in a review capacity and it wasn't specific to a product etc.

For me this NDA is to stop "speculation articles" that's actually rooted in fact.

I always find it bizarre when techpowerup etc post speculative articles when they more than likely have actual knowledge of things.

The thing is an NDa can't stop you talking about information in the public domain. So if a reviewer signs an NDa and get confidential information on a new GPU, then some tech site releases some info on the GPU, he reviewer can reference that tech site and what was said. But they can't add information to it, confirm anything, deny it, etc. Just repeat the leaked information.

 

[humbug]

See, I don;t think nvidia is extreme at all, just typical of any successful company. No different to supermarkets, department stores, phone manufactures, car makers, the likes of Samsung, Sony, Microsoft, Tescos, Amazon, Ford, Unilever. AMD is not really any different, they just fail at excution and so use different approaches. AMD will happily lie to sell products. It is not black and white, all shades of grey. Perhaps AMD is slightly lighter tone of grey, but to me it doesn't matter. Within a capitalist system this is the natural outcome.

However Nvidia treats their customers doesn't actually seem to mater because their sales figures prove otherwise. Customers dont; care about NDA, open-source, propriety. They care about performance and out-of-box experience without fuss.

Do you think the RBS group was within its rights to deliberately put healthy businesses into a 'special needs wing of their business' to bleed them dry to the point of going bust and then sell their assets, do you believe that is just part and parcel of capitalism?

Just to be clear i'm not remotely left wing, as you know i would sooner vote in Jacob Rees Mogg than Jeremy Corbyn.

 

[Martini1991]

The thing is an NDa can't stop you talking about information in the public domain. So if a reviewer signs an NDa and get confidential information on a new GPU, then some tech site releases some info on the GPU, he reviewer can reference that tech site and what was said. But they can't add information to it, confirm anything, deny it, etc. Just repeat the leaked information.

Fair enough. It doesn't do anything to stop posting speculative articles that they know to be true then (As long as said article references other sources?).

 

[Martini1991]

Do you think the RBS group was within its rights to deliberately put healthy businesses into a 'special needs wing of their business' to bleed them dry to the point of going bust and then sell their assets, do you believe that is just part and parcel of capitalism?

Just to be clear i'm not remotely left wing, as you know i would sooner vote in Jacob Rees Mogg than Jeremy Corbyn.

Surely you'd be happy with Nvidia in that case. Rees Mogg is as elite as it gets. The normal everyday person is just a nuisance to him.

 

[humbug]

That's was for D.P, Martini i'm happy to debate politics with you elsewhere, right now i'm trying to get to a wider point with D.P.

 

[Martini1991]

That's was for D.P, Martini i'm happy to debate politics with you elsewhere, right now i'm trying to get to a wider point with D.P.

Debating politics is fruitless.

People don't change their opinions. I think that you're wrong, you think I'm wrong. Reese Mogg is hardcore right, and in no uncertain terms do I think that's the way forward. In the same vein you may feel I'm a lefty loony and want to make us a communist state.

 

[humbug]

Debating politics is fruitless.

People don't change their opinions. I think that you're wrong, you think I'm wrong. Reese Mogg is hardcore right, and in no uncertain terms do I think that's the way forward. In the same vein you may feel I'm a lefty loony.

I used to vote Labour, now i don't. like a lot of other people, hence our government, is not Labour anymore.

Moving on...

 

[Martini1991]

I used to vote Labour, now i don't.

Moving on...

You've got to make an off topic thread how you went from Labour to Reese Mogg.
And I'm done.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Surely you'd be happy with Nvidia in that case. Rees Mogg is as elite as it gets. The normal everyday person is just a nuisance to him.

Just read about Somerset Capital Management. All I can say is LOL.

 

[humbug]

Thanks you, Martini, D.P?

 

[jigger]

The thing is an NDa can't stop you talking about information

No but it sure could land you in a very bad situation. How many times have Nvidia sued firms into oblivion. They seem actually seem to enjoy a good court case.