Michelin Cross Climate PLUS

ShiWarrior

ShiWarrior

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I am in need of two new tyres

so I am really considering Cross Climates this time , but im actually wondering when these would start working better than summer tyres (in temperatures) so when it starts going into winter whens the switch over point ? (if you understand what i mean)

anybody have any ideas or facts about this ?

thanks
 
i have them on my sti right now. they arent as good as summer tyres in summer obviously., but i would say below 5c they are going to be better. I would just swap summer and winter tyres when it convenient.
 
They like wet conditions and do perform well in wet. On snowy roads they also tend to behave quite well, while on hot asphalt in fast corners, they aren't the best.
Overall, I have an impression that they are better winter/rain tyres and not so good as pure summer ones.
 
They perform like a mid-range tyre at everything.

Two sets is a much better option if you have room. I found some used alloys, stuck winters on them and it cost about the same as buying a set of cross-climates on their own.
 
Thanks guys

I have been looking at all the reviews etc back from last winter, so i know how they perform (if they are true facts and not false)

Just wanted to know when they start to work best as the winter approaches

I appreciate your helps
 
I've got a set of Goodyear Vectors (1st gen) on the Golf and in this hot weather they are complete crap. I am still considering swapping to my usual 2 sets, but seems pointless to bin them. Can't comment on winter conditions as I only got the car in the spring.
If you do low miles, go for the Cross Climates (which will be significantly better than the Vectors anyway), but if you do proper miles, I honestly think 2 sets is the best bet, and find somewhere to store them, as mentioned earlier.
 
good point there
i do low miles, but i work more then most people, so im driving all over Xmas (except Xmas day and boxing day)
 
I had crossclimates on a remapped 320d for a couple of years.

I would say they've as good as an average mid range summer tyre in the warm dry conditions, better than an average summer tyre in the wet and good enough for getting traction on a RWD in the snow to keep you moving.

I Would recommend them as the only set of tyres With a winter rating (3 peak mountain) to keep on all year round. All other all season tyres lose too much braking distance in the warm/dry, but the crossclimates are based on a summer tyre but have winter capabilities.
 
I see you say you are in need of two new tyres. Would you be intending to mix them with summer tyres?
 
Got them on the front of my Mondeo. They did fantastic over winter not noticed any different in summer. Bit pricey though £175 each fitted for mine.
 
Guy at OcUK ran them on his Infiniti Q50 RWD for Winter, performed superb in Winter, good on snow too. But once temperatures were over 15c they felt soft, over 20c they felt really quite poor and greasy, as such he changed them out for Michelin PS4's which are a big improvement in Summer.

Common sense really, but as others have said if you live in an area that gets very cold and is prone to snow your simply better off having two sets of wheels, a set with Winter tyres and a set with Summer tyres.
 
Gibbo said:
Guy at OcUK ran them on his Infiniti Q50 RWD for Winter, performed superb in Winter, good on snow too. But once temperatures were over 15c they felt soft, over 20c they felt really quite poor and greasy, as such he changed them out for Michelin PS4's which are a big improvement in Summer.

Common sense really, but as others have said if you live in an area that gets very cold and is prone to snow your simply better off having two sets of wheels, a set with Winter tyres and a set with Summer tyres.
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If your comparing them in summer with one of the best premium tyres on the market (PS4's) they won't perform comparable .. but they aren't bad and certainly hold up better than other all season tyres matching average summer tyres in grip and braking in the dry and out performing them in the wet a little.

I replaced the continental premium contact 2 Run flats that were on the car when I purchased it with crossclimates and they were comparable to those in the dry and slightly better in the wet.. snow and ice they were obviously considerably better. I was getting bewildered looks from drivers stuck in the snow as I went past them in a RWD BMW.
 
Spartacus said:
If your comparing them in summer with one of the best premium tyres on the market (PS4's) they won't perform comparable .. but they aren't bad and certainly hold up better than other all season tyres matching average summer tyres in grip and braking in the dry and out performing them in the wet a little.

I replaced the continental premium contact 2 Run flats that were on the car when I purchased it with crossclimates and they were comparable to those in the dry and slightly better in the wet.. snow and ice they were obviously considerably better. I was getting bewildered looks from drivers stuck in the snow as I went past them in a RWD BMW.
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thanks for the information

to all those that say get winter and summer tyres
1 - I don't have space for them
2 - short journeys to work at present
3 - winter feels like its going, gets to 15c give or take, winter strikes back in 2 days, full winters back on [I don't want to be swapping wheels around every couple of days)
 
I think it depends on what car you have, i ran Bridgestone all season tyres A001's i think for about 4 years on my Toyota Yaris daily.

They were fine in 25C in the summer as like, it's a Yaris so you'll never be cornering on the door handles. it did feel a bit squishier in the corners but again meh it's a Yaris, it was however a ton better in the frost and snow then normal tyres.

If you have a sportier car or drive quickly 2 sets is clearly the way forward but for a 'normal' car all seasons like that are fine.
 
Spartacus said:
If your comparing them in summer with one of the best premium tyres on the market (PS4's) they won't perform comparable .. but they aren't bad and certainly hold up better than other all season tyres matching average summer tyres in grip and braking in the dry and out performing them in the wet a little.

I replaced the continental premium contact 2 Run flats that were on the car when I purchased it with crossclimates and they were comparable to those in the dry and slightly better in the wet.. snow and ice they were obviously considerably better. I was getting bewildered looks from drivers stuck in the snow as I went past them in a RWD BMW.
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Haha, it's because most people put below-average both summer and winter sets and think they were fine... They don't even look at the ratings A, B, C for wet performance and fuel consumption performance.
These Michelins are the best all-round tyre available right now. One needs premium summer and premium winter tyres to beat that Michelin performance.
 
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