More women freezing eggs due to "unreliable men"

Psycho Sonny said:
in your scenario lets say you are earning £30K a year working in IT. you develop some code which is bought by microsoft for millions and you end up getting millions in royalties. that means now you have to dump your gf who earns £25K a year just because you now earn more.
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Psycho Sonny said:
iin your scenario lets say you are earning £30K a year working in IT. you develop some code which is bought by microsoft for millions and you end up getting millions in royalties. that means now you have to dump your gf who earns £25K a year just because you now earn more.
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Like that's never happened! ;) :D
 
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CREATIVE!11 said:
Ha,

I've got 2 examples of that happen in my life. Not me but friends of family etc. Pretty much the same story....

Then woman wonder why men don't want to get married. To be frank.... if you have any kind of financial "muscle" ie own your own house have etc etc you'd have to be a total idiot to get married. You are effectively signing a contract that allows her to take half your stuff if she ups and decides to one day.

If we look at it purely rationally and remove "muh feels" it's a stupid decision....
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How about make sure you find the right woman first? I cannot believe the mentality of never wanting to have a family because you are scared that your material assets you've gained up to that point in life might get taken away from you. If you find the right woman, give it about 5 years of getting to know her properly before you even think about marriage, and work on the relationship, then you leave a very small risk of getting screwed over. And who are you going to enjoy all those things you've worked for with if not a family? The first rule is a proper screening process for the people you want to share your life with, and that is something lots of guys don't do properly, rushing into relationships and marriages and having kids.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
car and home on rent/lease no doubt. on 35 year mortgages, etc.

those 6 hours? well it's called house work. how long do you think it takes to clean a 5 bedroom house? who does all the washing, the ironing, cooking, etc for 3-5 people?

they also may work part time on top of all of that.

i take it you aren't married or have kids?
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Nope because I choose not to right now. In a few years time maybe.

If someone has such a big house then they have enough money to get a cleaner. Spending 6 hours a day cleaning a house for years, everyday because you have kids......try explaining that to a employeer when applying for jobs. Can be a disadvantage if they want to get back into work.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
in this scenario the male earns the bulk of the income. it's cheaper for the woman to stay at home than to pay for cleaners, nurseries and if they were to work 9-5 and work is 45 mins commute. you need to pay someone to take them to and from nursery as well as look after them before and after, etc.

as people say nursery is 1700 a month, cleaners on such a house won't be cheap either. they needed 3 iirc.

you are talking an easy £2500 a month after tax where the mother may only be earning £1500 a month before tax.

now i know what you are going to say. they shouldn't marry someone who earns significantly less than them. well it doesn't work like that. it is what it is.

in your scenario lets say you are earning £30K a year working in IT. you develop some code which is bought by microsoft for millions and you end up getting millions in royalties. that means now you have to dump your gf who earns £25K a year just because you now earn more.
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You are the king/ queen of ridiculous scenarios in this thread aren't you?

Between houses with 8 bathrooms apparently requiring a team of three cleaners and people suddenly becoming millionaires overnight it's clear that your well choosing likely, we'll grounded examples to illustrate your points (/sarcasm)

And its hardly unknown for the old girlfriend to get dumped when the boyfriends fortunes suddenly improve and he can suddenly attract more women.
 
malachi said:
Nope because I choose not to right now. In a few years time maybe.

If someone has such a big house then they have enough money to get a cleaner. Spending 6 hours a day cleaning a house for years, everyday because you have kids......try explaining that to a employeer when applying for jobs. Can be a disadvantage if they want to get back into work.
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they will never need to work. but they do choose to help out here and there in their partners various business interests. no need to go applying for jobs.
 
Caracus2k said:
You are the king/ queen of ridiculous scenarios in this thread aren't you?

Between houses with 8 bathrooms apparently requiring a team of three cleaners and people suddenly becoming millionaires overnight it's clear that your well choosing likely, we'll grounded examples to illustrate your points (/sarcasm)

And its hardly unknown for the old girlfriend to get dumped when the boyfriends fortunes suddenly improve and he can suddenly attract more women.
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so you agree your point of view doesn't work for everyone?
 
Psycho Sonny said:
i think it's mainly due to western society not having as close family bonds.

so they see family as a burden rather than an integral way of living.

put it this way you wouldn't be here if your family thought the same way in the past. who do you rely on if you have no family? who can you ask for help in times of needs? basically western people, especially men are selfish. it's my money, i'm scared to lose it, i don't want to be paying for kids, etc. it's all about you and your lifestyle rather than the bigger picture.
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Men having their house and money taken away by the women who runs off with the kids has made it that way. It's not being selfish, it's being cautious and you can't blame people for it.

Pretty much everyone knows someone it has happened to. Guys see friends getting done over by spiteful women and think **** that.
 
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dl8860 said:
I cannot believe the mentality of never wanting to have a family because you are scared that your material assets you've gained up to that point in life might get taken away from you. If you find the right woman, give it about 5 years of getting to know her properly before you even think about marriage, and work on the relationship, then you leave a very small risk of getting screwed over.
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Objective reality doesn't agree with your thoughts

40% + of marriages end in divorce (and that's a reduced figure form previous years)

Around 2/3 of divorces are instigated by women

So circa 27% of all heterosexual marriages in the UK end because the woman instigates a divorce.
 
We have rejected our history since the introduction of the pill and contraceptives. The whole of modern society has grown around the ability to easily suppress child birth.

The Muslim community seems the only one that is still in tune with a traditional family setup with the woman more likely staying at home to bring up the children.

If automation takes our jobs then maybe we will see more time for people to bring up children. However we will have a strange situation where there will be a lack of low skill jobs so if you do decide to bring up your kids rather than battle in the high tech job market you might have issues.
 
Nasher said:
Men having their house and money taken away the women who runs off with the kids has made it that way. It's not being selfish, it's being cautious and you can't blame people for it. Pretty much everyone knows someone it has happened to.
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You can protect your self from this. Also if you married her then you must have thought she was a decent person. I believe kids should go with the mother's provided they are decent human beings. So they get house and money too because well that is the vows you took. This is the problem nobody takes marriage or the vows seriously. So why get married then?

For better or worse.
For richer or poorer.
Til death do us part.

You have agreed to look after them until they die. Now you are complaining about it costing too much. Well don't get married then.

The reason why divorce rates are so high is because of poor choices. You can only blame yourself for that tbh.
 
Nasher said:
The vows are nullified once you divorce...
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Yes and the terms usually require you to still support them.

You are basically re-writing or editing a legal contract.

If someone has agreed legally in a contract that they are going to pay you £50k a week for 5 years. Then how often do they get out of that legal contract without paying them off in terms of footballers?

You have agreed to support them for life. So now you are negotiating for less. Why would the other party agree?

It's why mostly women start divorce proceedings because they usually have and earned less. So either way staying or leaving is beneficial.

ItsI why men usually don't. It's not beneficial unless they don't have anything.


Id like to see a comparison of divorce statistics for high earners compared to low earners.

I'm willing to bet high earners don't divorce as much.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
The reason why divorce rates are so high is because of poor choices. You can only blame yourself for that tbh.
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Wrong ... The reasons divorces rates are high are because people can more easily leave marriages then in the past with less social stigma and financial consequence (more so on average for women then men)

People have always made poor choices but just had to suck it up previously and stick with it more often than not.
 
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