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I just had to order in a new 13" Macbook pro for a new member of staff here, i am absolutely disgusted with what you get for your 2k or more.

Its going to be one of the very few macs here, i am doing well in wiping out there crap and keeping the place free of Apples overpriced garbage.
 
sideways14a said:
I just had to order in a new 13" Macbook pro for a new member of staff here, i am absolutely disgusted with what you get for your 2k or more.

Its going to be one of the very few macs here, i am doing well in wiping out there crap and keeping the place free of Apples overpriced garbage.
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You sound great, don't worry about what works for people you just keep doing what you're doing ;)
 
MacRS4 said:
I've just paid 2.4k for the 15" SB2 with 512Gb SSD and 16Gb RAM. That's with the i7-8560U chip in it.

That's opposed to 2.9k for the i9 512Gb/32Gb RAM new MBP. Both with student discount.

The SB2 is slower than my 2017 rMBP 2.9Ghz, never mind the newer i9 unit.
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Good point the SB15 still uses the U processors.

I have a SB2 13 myself and it has the quad core CPU and GTX1050 when Apple were still doing the dual core ones with integrated graphics which made it an easy choice at the time.
 
I've not thought it slow to be fair, but my usage of it really is different. my MBP has a ton of virtual stuff on it, and I use it for my 'doing' work. The SB2 is my office & meeting machine, and perhaps my travel buddy.

Tbh only really have it as I fancied seeing what it was like fully back in the Windows ecosystem, and it looked the best out there. Was just a bit surprised at the specs as all the reviews mentioned how powerful it was - I'm guessing they're on about the GPU etc.
 
Still on a 15" late 2013 MBP here and it still feels quick. I'll probably pick up another next year but in no rush to lose magsafe, SD card slot and a decent keyboard :p
 
Ordered the i9, with 32Gb RAM and 2Tb SSD. I've had the Lenovo P51 for the last year and while it's a nice machine I prefer MacOS over Windows.
 
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I think that's the key thing here, and how Apple continue to be successfully. Many don't see Windows as an option and also prefer MacOS. This means you are stuck with whatever Apple puts out, at whatever price, with whatever gimmick (looking at you touchbar). They essentially don't have any competition in the MacOS space for those that won't/can't use Windows.

It's one of the main reasons I moved to Windows, I didn't like what Apple was putting out and didn't want to have that as my only hardware choice.
 
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chanjy said:
You sound great, don't worry about what works for people you just keep doing what you're doing ;)
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I am not interested, i have to support this junk and unless a member of staff has to use a mac (ie has an application that they can only use on a mac) then they will not be getting one - this is mainly financially driven as well as it costs at least a couple of times the cost of a pc to put a mac in place.

If a mac is the only option then it can go in, but you had better have a good reason for it. Being more familiar with macs and hating windows doesnt cut it.
 
EVH said:
Still on a 15" late 2013 MBP here and it still feels quick. I'll probably pick up another next year but in no rush to lose magsafe, SD card slot and a decent keyboard :p
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This.

I think the reason why a lot of people don't see Windows laptops as an alternative is that there isn't a comparable trackpad on any other laptops.

I'm still running a 2012 Retina MBP with 16GB RAM and 512MB SSD, I'd love to upgrade to the new ones so that I can get hex core and 32GB for video and graphics editing, but at over £3k for a spec that's worth buying, I don't want to risk it until they say they've absolutely sorted the keyboard issues.

I guess the crazy price will keep me running this for another few months at least to see if there's a further minor refresh later in 2018 to address the keyboard.
 
Adding 16GB of RAM, and going from 256GB to 1TB SSD costs £900, there is just no excuse for that sort of extortionate pricing.

However as commented, if you have "no choice" but to use Apple products then I guess you have "no choice" other than to be ripped off. Needless to say I am sure lots of people will try and defend that sort of silly pricing somehow, but no, just no.
 
sideways14a said:
I am not interested, i have to support this junk and unless a member of staff has to use a mac (ie has an application that they can only use on a mac) then they will not be getting one - this is mainly financially driven as well as it costs at least a couple of times the cost of a pc to put a mac in place.

If a mac is the only option then it can go in, but you had better have a good reason for it. Being more familiar with macs and hating windows doesnt cut it.
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It’s a shame so many businesses just look at cost when specifying hardware. I’ve got an 11 month old Lenovo X270 at work and it’s a dreadful laptop. Very slow because 5400rpm hard disk, tiny little 12” screen because 16:9 and awful trackpad that is almost unusable. A MacBook would be superior in every regard and just as small and light, but the NHS would never spring for that.
 
Yes this is my main gripe, for me to refresh a lab of computers ... say a 30 seat job with the same spec macs would more than double, almost treble my costs - as i dont have a huge it budget for this campus its not going to happen unless absolutly needed.
I find the price / performance ratio for apple products to be utterly awful - there simply is no excuse for £900 as mentioned above for upgrades.

mrochester said:
It’s a shame so many businesses just look at cost when specifying hardware. I’ve got an 11 month old Lenovo X270 at work and it’s a dreadful laptop. Very slow because 5400rpm hard disk, tiny little 12” screen because 16:9 and awful trackpad that is almost unusable. A MacBook would be superior in every regard and just as small and light, but the NHS would never spring for that.
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You macbook would cost a huge amount more to procure and support than a decent laptop, if your IT dept bought decent windows / pc kit then you wouldnt have a problem but the answer to **** windows builds is not just Mac.
 
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At £3k it's got to be a solid performer for 5 years (£600 a year) with no repair costs to be worth while if I'm paying out of my own pocket.

I'd probably be willing to pay £600+ a year for some kind of annual upgrade program similar to the iPhone annual upgrade program if they were to roll that out, so I don't have a massive multi thousand pound outlay and risk of manufacturing / design flaw repair costs.
 
sideways14a said:
You macbook would cost a huge amount more to procure and support than a decent laptop, if your IT dept bought decent windows / pc kit then you wouldnt have a problem but the answer to **** windows builds is not just Mac.
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My 750GBP Lenovo laptop from work is a solid performer. i5 7th Gen, 8GB Ram and 256SSD and 1080p screen. Has no issues with office work and development. Keyboard is really nice too.
 
LiE said:
I think the SSDs are nvme, which are about 500GBP so Apple tax isn't miles away.
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A brand new retail, top of the line Samsung 970 Pro 1TB is <£390, and that is at retail, and you are not upgrading from 256GB you are starting from ZERO GB. You could buy 32GB+ RAM, and a 2TB NVMe SSD for £900 at retail.
 
Ohh dont get me wrong i have had some good kit in, i have some all in one HP units coming in for staff next month - complete with upspec'd quad core, 16gb ram and a half TB ssd all built into a 23.9" lcd for well for about £580..

Ok thats 150 more than a bog standard desktop (which this year are quite good as well) but its prob worth it.

Windows pc's do not need to be crap, they really dont.
 
My work stuff is *all* Windows Server and related apps - strangely, the reason I use MacOS so much is that it's brilliant at running and managing such things. Who knew. The fact that the MBPs can run MacOS and Windows right side by side is a complete winner for me.

Also, I seem to spend far less time messing with my actual laptop configuration on MacOS then I do on Windows. Not sure what that's about.
 
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