Rub & Tug - Scarlett Johansson pulls out

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https://variety.com/2018/film/news/scarlett-johansson-exit-rub-and-tug-trans-backlash-1202872981/

“In light of recent ethical questions raised surrounding my casting as Dante Tex Gill, I have decided to respectfully withdraw my participation in the project,” Johansson told Out Magazine, which first reported the news, in a statement. “Our cultural understanding of transgender people continues to advance, and I’ve learned a lot from the community since making my first statement about my casting and realize it was insensitive. I have great admiration and love for the trans community and am grateful that the conversation regarding inclusivity in Hollywood continues. According to GLAAD, LGBTQ+ characters dropped 40% in 2017 from the previous year, with no representation of trans characters in any major studio release.”

Fair enough from her perspective, the media have turned her into some evil nazi type for daring to take on this role and she has her image to worry about, the backlash threatens future projects she could be involved and in turn potentially threatened her market value. She already had some flack re: whitewashing with ghost in the shell - even though she was playing the shell FFS.

I suspect a decade ago she'd be described as 'brave' and applauded for getting involved in a movie that tells the story of a trans-man but with today's promotion of identity politics it seemingly "triggered" some people.

I do wonder what they're going to do now - perhaps they can persuade another female actor to take the role. Failing that they've got a very small pool of people to chose from and a lot more risk for the project. IT doesn't make clear where they start the story off either - I mean at some point in the 70s this person was a woman and then started undergoing transition into a man... if you cast a modern trans man most of them are already going to look quite masculine from the start.

Will be interesting to see what happens - whether they get an actual trans person to play the role or whether another actress is prepared to face the backlash.
 
Best thing for her, I'm sure she doesn't need the grief.
Can't help but think that people are forgetting that with acting people pretend to be something that they're not.
 
You know, rather than just meekly capitulating, I'd love for someone to stand their ground and tell the terminally offended brigade to wind their necks in and to STFU.
 
So now a "trans-positive" film will end up with a person of lesser "Star Power" in the lead role (if anyone actually takes it after all the backlash) and the film will be seen by less people, bringing less people into contact with trans-issues, make less money so studios will be less willing to spend their money on trans-issue films and this is somehow a "Win" for the trans community?

I look back to films like Tootsie, Dallas Buyers Club and Boys Don't Cry which brought a massive "Hollywood Star Power" spotlight and therefore garnered a much wider audience for the issues those films deal with and I can't help but think that, what is probably a small minority of the trans community, has really hurt their cause with this because now very few studios will want to touch a film like this in the future, it's just no worth the risk.

My own opinion is that "Acting" is make-believe and if such a minority film like this needs an actor who is of sufficient star power to get it green lit by a studio and seen by a wider audience, then the actors gender, age, race etc shouldn't be a factor as the message should be more important than who the actor is.
 
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Dat Tooth!, though it's now fixed, and "dem, bewbs" also did a magic vanishing act. :o Pretty weird looking in that pic to be fair.
 
Why does it matter who plays the lead? Does it have to be a real transgender?

Isn’t that the whole point of acting? Did Tim cruise get a law degree before taking the role in a Few Good Men? Did Tom Hanks get Aids to star in Philadelphia?

Before you know it, it’s not acting, it’s a documentary.
 
Good lord, what a thread title!

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So now a "trans-positive" film will end up with a person of lesser "Star Power" in the lead role (if anyone actually takes it after all the backlash) and the film will be seen by less people, bringing less people into contact with trans-issues, make less money so studios will be less willing to spend their money on trans-issue films and this is somehow a "Win" for the trans community?

yeah that's a risk in that they might well have scored an own goal here and the film suffers as a result - perhaps the publicity from this controversy will cause the LGBT etc.. community to rally around and support the movie if it stars a trans actor, maybe the usual publications will promote it a bit too - it could easily go wrong though.

It does seem that perhaps the black widow movie might have been a factor here. There seems to have been a bit of hate in the past from the sort of guys who don't like girls playing video games and showing up at comic conventions (though no doubt perhaps do still like the sluttier looking ones in their costumes)... on the other hand the sort of SJW fans they'd be targeting with that movie are among the same people perhaps triggered by the coverage of her being an evil privileged "cis" person stealing a trans person's role... worry might well have been that both gamer gate types and SJWs would hate her and affect sales of the black widow.
 
I look back to films like Tootsie, Dallas Buyers Club and Boys Don't Cry which brought a massive "Hollywood Star Power" spotlight and therefore garnered a much wider audience for the issues those films deal with and I can't help but think that, what is probably a small minority of the trans community, has really hurt their cause with this because now very few studios will want to touch a film like this in the future, it's just no worth the risk.
Boys Don't Cry was no 'hollywood star power' movie. It's exactly the sort of film you could make with an actual trans actor. If you could find a trans actor with the talent of Hillary Swank.....
 
Boys Don't Cry was no 'hollywood star power' movie. It's exactly the sort of film you could make with an actual trans actor. If you could find a trans actor with the talent of Hillary Swank.....

Thats true to be fair. More important was the reception the film received afterwards with Swank's depiction winning both a Golden Globe and an Oscar that raised the films prominence amongst "everyday" cinema goers.
 
Danish Girl was only released 3 years ago. Didn't Eddie Redmayne get praise for taking the role?

yup he did and it was set in the 20s... how do they expect a trans woman (many of whom will have taken hormones and or had access to breast and facial surgery) to play the character in the early part of the film as a man

this sort of thing, if it continues, is only going to serve to limit further content
 
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