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What’s your problem with dogs? How do they impact your life so severely that you feel the joy of dogs should be taken away from everyone else in the country?
MPs to debate adding Staffies to dangerous dogs list
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Do you understand the implication of Peta accepting all animals, rather than choosing to turn away problem ones? It means that they get the problem ones other shelters turn away.
It's also probably worth remembering that Peta only has one shelter: they euthanise about 2500 animals per year. Which is not a scratch on the 600,000+ dogs (forgetting the cats and other animals for a moment) euthanised in the US every year. Probably, you should apply a little more critical thinking before sucking up the nonsense peddled on social media.
Soldato
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Yes indeed, Peta the animal charity doesn’t spend it’s money on animals.
I agree with you.
I agree with you.
They're not the RSPCA, nor do they try to be. They're an animal rights advocacy organisation. They campaign and raise awareness. It's literally their MO.
Honestly, educate yourself.
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They are all that is wrong with animal rights charities, most do an amazing job, shelters work hard to care and rehome animals and pets, care for those neglected, and spread helpful campaigns and raise awareness.
Peta does none of this, they promote themselves, using extreme tactics, causing a complete backlash and further the animal,rights causes by absolutely no ground.
I feel smaller groups actually taking action, doing work is better for animal rights.
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It’s nearly always the owner, my friend has a staffie and he is fine.
What I always find amusing about debates like this is how people are perfectly happy to use statistics to argue that one "Breed" of Dog might be inherently more dangerous (To such an extent that they shouyld even all be banned/euthanised) than any other "Breed"
And yet the very same people would, most likely, recoil in horror at the idea of using the exact same arguments to argue that one "Breed" of Human is inherently more dangerous than any other....
And yet the very same people would, most likely, recoil in horror at the idea of using the exact same arguments to argue that one "Breed" of Human is inherently more dangerous than any other....
Yes any dog can be vicious, it's totally missing the point though - when you have a pit bull type dog deciding to be vicious then the consequences are very different to plenty of other dogs.
Strangely enough you don't tend to see Chihuahuas on that list... fact is there are much more severe consequences if a pit bull type dog kicks off and it can lead to deaths or severe injuries. It is pretty obvious why, they're muscular little things with massive powerful jaws.
I've never encountered a gun owner I'd be worried about, every gun owner I know is very sensible, has never been in trouble with the law and would never kill anyone. I don't think that firearms should be a free for all in the UK though.
Fact is there are plenty of owners of bull terrier types who train them to be aggressive and use them as weapons (in place of knives) - go to any number of London parks and you'll frequently see low branches on trees covered in bite marks from where the owners of these dogs train them to hang from them in an attempt to strengthen their jaws, train them to be aggressive.
I'm not suggesting that current owners should need do anything more than simply muzzle their dogs when outside and make sure their neutered, IMO the introduction of Staffies to the list ought to contain some provision for current owners with just irresponsible ones who let them off the lead in the streets etc.. or who have their dog involved in attacks etc.. affected.
Fact is that owners of staffies are disproportionately irresponsible dog owners too - they're massively overrepresented in most dog kennels.
Why did a police dog kill a 75 year old man?
It didn't. It bit a 73 year old woman on the arm and leg. She died 4 days later in hospital.
She had allowed the police in to her garden as they were searching for a fleeing drug dealer and some unknown reason she left her kitchen door open. The dog entered and attacked her.
Being a post man and having been attacked by loads of different breeds it's all the same. Any dog can snap like any human can snap and go on a murder spree.
Am more scared of labs than staffies. Labs are big dogs and it's just scary when they go for you. Good luck pulling a lab off my dead body lol.
I don't think banning breeds is the way to go, we need better support for canines and there owners like we do with mental health and people
Am more scared of labs than staffies. Labs are big dogs and it's just scary when they go for you. Good luck pulling a lab off my dead body lol.
I don't think banning breeds is the way to go, we need better support for canines and there owners like we do with mental health and people
Yup. Dog was destroyed and there was an inquest. I know police dogs can get quite riled when they're on the pursuit but yeah it was an oddity.
I don't think bans are a good idea in general for most things, it should be an absolute last resort. There just needs to be laws in place, and where those laws are broken dog owners should face penalties. I'm not a fan of putting a dog down at the slightest nip though.
This is what literally no one will ever get Tefal, they just go 'herp derp' staffies are like pit bulls all dem chavs have them and they're always pulling and foaming at the mouth with their metal collars bannnnn
You're not really presenting any sort of coherent argument here - what exactly is it that you think people don't get?
That chavs owning a dog breed because it's fashionable doesn't mean that breed is bad, it means that chavs don't make good dog owners. That's what I took from his post
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Probably because that argument is stupid. Human's haven't been subject to selective breeding to produce fighting machines.