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davey_g10

davey_g10

davey_g10

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Hey All,

I've been browsing the forum the past few days taking in the wealth of info and expertise here and would appreciate some help and advice on a build I'm looking to put together. It's a non-gaming machine but will still need to be a powerful machine.

I'm wanting to put the machine together to do a bunch of poker work, so DB intensive, and using specific software that requires a lot of CPU power and RAM. Multi-threading a must.

I was initially looking at Intel, since the last time I put a machine together 6 years ago they were the standout best. However, I'm looking now at Ryzen 7, which seems to be pretty popular and a beast of a chip.

Any recommendations for which components will go best for this, 16gb RAM minimum but 32gb ideal. I'm not a fan of big cases so if I can make a mini-ATX work that would be preferred.
GPX wise I'm not gaming, so something that can handle 2 monitors of good resolution.

Anything else I might need to consider?

All advice much appreciated, thanks!
 
Just following up on this. I've done some research into the main (and most resource intensive) program I'll be using and I've come up with two build options for it (one helped by orbitalwalsh, thanks!). Basically an i7-8700 and a Ryzen 2700X version.

Here is what I've got from the software makers about their advice. They say generally that Ryzen do very well (caveat if you get a stable build).

"Speed is proportional to number of cores * physical frequency + 12-15% for hyperthreading (i7 vs i5 in general) is pretty reliable; AMD cores are about 5% slower than Intel at most but they usually run at higher freq which more than compensates"
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I sort of understand that, but can't figure out how to compute whether that would make the intel / AMD build better. Those running threadrippers get by far the best performance, but I don't really have the budget to be going that far, hence the 2700X option.


Intel Option:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £946.62 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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AMD Option:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,201.48 (includes shipping: £12.60)
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What are people's thoughts?
 
i know they're quoting 12-15%, but lets say 10% performance gain for SMT (as worst case scenario)

i7 8700 (non-k) = 4.3ghz boost clocks when all 6 cores loaded
4300*6 + 10% = 28380 points

2700x (overclocked) = 4.1ghz on all 8 cores
95% (4100*8) + 10% = 34276 points

no brainer here really. 2700x is the way to go.
(i'm going to assume, like other games, faster ram also helps with ryzen's performance, so the gap could be bigger)
 
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,271.58 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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better (more) VRMS on the taichi board for sustained loads
cheaper (cost per gb) ssd
lower wattage psu (650w definitely isn't required) - could get away with 350w if you really wanted to lol :p
better gpu - gt710 can only display max of 2560*1600 resolution
changed case to something better (your preference though)

(unfortunately, some items are out of stock at ocuk)
 
Thanks Tamzzy, I was actually looking for that case when I was putting the basket together as I saw it in another build. Very nice looking case!
Yeah shame about out of stock on some items. Thanks for the mobo suggestion as capable of having sustained loads will be important, still comes with wifi!

I could take the Bitfenix 450w PSU then for a bit more of a saving?
Am I unlikely to run into many RAM issues with a good board such as this and the b-die high quality RAM selected?
 
davey_g10 said:
Thanks for the mobo suggestion as capable of having sustained loads will be important, still comes with wifi!
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indeed

davey_g10 said:
I could take the Bitfenix 450w PSU then for a bit more of a saving?
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can do :)

davey_g10 said:
Am I unlikely to run into many RAM issues with a good board such as this and the b-die high quality RAM selected?
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never say never. unfortunately, even at this time, the IMC/memory stability of ryzen can be a bit hit and miss.
luck of the draw i guess...
 
So what exactly is the IMC issue with Ryzen?
If running into trouble, is it fixable or does it sometimes mean in worst cases you're left with a machine that doesn't work? Or is it just a speed thing?
 
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