Which AM4 x470 motherboard?

AMDPower · 25 Jul 2018 at 10:31

Hi all

I am having hard time deciding between motherboards for my ryzen 2700x and I been going in cirlcles for lat 2 weeks trying to decide what to buy.

I have narrowed it down to these 3

ASUS Crosshair VII
Gigabyte AORUS gaming 7
Asrock Taichi

I really like the Taichi but it has apparently not great ram computability/overclocking. Asus has the best in terms of Ram and overclocking stability and gigabye seem to get mixed reviews. I like the ASUS board but the 28 day warranty turnaround is just too long and OCUK are not doing the TURBO warranty service by the looks of things any more. I dont mind buying the gigabyte board but worried it might not work well with the ram I bought. Also the ASUS board is considerably more than the other two boards. I am looking at the wifi/bluetooth versions.

So what board would you pick and why?

8 Pack · 25 Jul 2018 at 10:51

Asus or asrock. Both better with memory. Asus has as always the most features and asrock is the best price.

Space Monkey · 26 Jul 2018 at 03:48

AMDPower said:
Hi all

I am having hard time deciding between motherboards for my ryzen 2700x and I been going in cirlcles for lat 2 weeks trying to decide what to buy.

I have narrowed it down to these 3

ASUS Crosshair VII
Gigabyte AORUS gaming 7
Asrock Taichi

I really like the Taichi but it has apparently not great ram computability/overclocking. Asus has the best in terms of Ram and overclocking stability and gigabye seem to get mixed reviews. I like the ASUS board but the 28 day warranty turnaround is just too long and OCUK are not doing the TURBO warranty service by the looks of things any more. I dont mind buying the gigabyte board but worried it might not work well with the ram I bought. Also the ASUS board is considerably more than the other two boards. I am looking at the wifi/bluetooth versions.

So what board would you pick and why?

What RAM did you purchase?

I had the previous generation Taichi (X370) and that played perfectly with my Team Group 8Pack RAM (3200MHz C14 - Samsung B-Die) so I'm sure the new X470 would improve on that, plus the reviews seem favourable?

AMDPower · 26 Jul 2018 at 10:10

8 Pack said:
Asus or asrock. Both better with memory. Asus has as always the most features and asrock is the best price.

Thanks 8pac, just out interest which of the two would you choose?

Space Monkey said:
What RAM did you purchase?

I had the previous generation Taichi (X370) and that played perfectly with my Team Group 8Pack RAM (3200MHz C14 - Samsung B-Die) so I'm sure the new X470 would improve on that, plus the reviews seem favourable?

Gskill Trident Z F4-3200C14D-16GTZRX. These are optimised for AMD apparently hence the X prefix, i really wanted the LED, i know its sad. I believe these are also Samsung B die.

are you still using Ryzen, which board and ram do you have right now?

8 Pack · 26 Jul 2018 at 10:46

Both of those boards work well with those mems... SO choose which best fits you.

4K8KW10 · 26 Jul 2018 at 11:17

ASRock X370 Killer SLI because it is good and quite affordable.

orbitalwalsh · 26 Jul 2018 at 11:19

AMDPower said:
Hi all

I am having hard time deciding between motherboards for my ryzen 2700x and I been going in cirlcles for lat 2 weeks trying to decide what to buy.

I have narrowed it down to these 3

ASUS Crosshair VII
Gigabyte AORUS gaming 7
Asrock Taichi

I really like the Taichi but it has apparently not great ram computability/overclocking. Asus has the best in terms of Ram and overclocking stability and gigabye seem to get mixed reviews. I like the ASUS board but the 28 day warranty turnaround is just too long and OCUK are not doing the TURBO warranty service by the looks of things any more. I dont mind buying the gigabyte board but worried it might not work well with the ram I bought. Also the ASUS board is considerably more than the other two boards. I am looking at the wifi/bluetooth versions.

So what board would you pick and why?

have Aorus 7 working with 8 Packs 4000hz kit at 3633hz , can push 3700 but have aweful Ryzen 2700 chip. cant do above 4.05ghz overclock

might try 2700x and see how far i can push . Wifi is damn nice if you have BT or virgins latest Routers , ditched powerlines and wires for it
Gigabyte rep get a lot of praise on here for support.

Most admit, Taichi does look damn nice though! suites either a white or black case equally just as good
and asus bios as damn easy to use!

Jamin280672 · 26 Jul 2018 at 20:19

I have the Gigabyte gaming 7 too, love it, especially in the VRM area, they have done an amazing job with the new finned heatsink, the others could learn a lot from it, even in these temps we are having at the moment, under prime, they only hit a max of 80oC.

Just wish they would sort the next AGESA update out already, (1.0.0.4c), every other board manufacturer seems to have released it already, just not Gigabyte, even MSI have released it and they are normally the slowest.

@orbitalwalsh I had the 2700, mine only did 4.05ghz too, so changed to the 2700X and that only does 4.15ghz, not worth it.

eddiew · 26 Jul 2018 at 21:06

Jamin280672 said:
I have the Gigabyte gaming 7 too, love it, especially in the VRM area, they have done an amazing job with the new finned heatsink, the others could learn a lot from it, even in these temps we are having at the moment, under prime, they only hit a max of 80oC.

The heatsinks on those VRMs are brilliant, tbh. As in they're actual heatsinks, not a branding exercise.

On the other hand I loathe and despise how Gigabyte always put the m.2 slots behind the GPU. With a lowly 1060, my Sammy 960 Pro bounced off 70 degrees during gaming and throttled. New motherboard, drive placed well above the GPU, never breaks 55, never throttles, and legitimately loads games in half the time it used to. If you're planning on a prosumer drive it's hard to recommend a GB board to put it in. Probably be fine with something more midrange though.

Panos · 27 Jul 2018 at 03:48

AMDPower said:
Hi all

I am having hard time deciding between motherboards for my ryzen 2700x and I been going in cirlcles for lat 2 weeks trying to decide what to buy.

I have narrowed it down to these 3

ASUS Crosshair VII
Gigabyte AORUS gaming 7
Asrock Taichi

I really like the Taichi but it has apparently not great ram computability/overclocking. Asus has the best in terms of Ram and overclocking stability and gigabye seem to get mixed reviews. I like the ASUS board but the 28 day warranty turnaround is just too long and OCUK are not doing the TURBO warranty service by the looks of things any more. I dont mind buying the gigabyte board but worried it might not work well with the ram I bought. Also the ASUS board is considerably more than the other two boards. I am looking at the wifi/bluetooth versions.

So what board would you pick and why?

You won't go wrong with the ASUS Crosshair VII, followed by the Taichi followed Aorus G7 and Aorus Ultra Gaming. .
Still having the CH6 with the 1800X upstairs for work related purpose and works with Ripjaws V 3600C15 ram at rated speed since got it.

Though must add Aorus has better overclocking features with PBO offsets etc.
Might be better boards if you have a good 2700X to hit 4.5Ghz without much heat using the offset settings.
Have a look at buildzoid youtube channel, he runs a lot of detailed reviews with boards.

orbitalwalsh · 27 Jul 2018 at 11:22

Jamin280672 said:
I have the Gigabyte gaming 7 too, love it, especially in the VRM area, they have done an amazing job with the new finned heatsink, the others could learn a lot from it, even in these temps we are having at the moment, under prime, they only hit a max of 80oC.

Just wish they would sort the next AGESA update out already, (1.0.0.4c), every other board manufacturer seems to have released it already, just not Gigabyte, even MSI have released it and they are normally the slowest.

@orbitalwalsh I had the 2700, mine only did 4.05ghz too, so changed to the 2700X and that only does 4.15ghz, not worth it.

Hows the IMC on your chip?? mine handled 3633hz with Aorus 7 and 3466hz with Ultra board (2700)

hope this helps - will have to see if Gigabyte will be able to link Beta Bios here - worth a shot

seems they are jumping from 1.0.0.2c to 1.0.0.5. I think Gigabyte do this often, been mentioned a few times in the thread as some ASESA updates from AMD cause them more harm then good - believe asus did they once to. coding send from AMD is in binary form , so pain to compile etc for no good outcome

http://gigabyteforum.freeforums.net/post/21808

eddiew said:
The heatsinks on those VRMs are brilliant, tbh. As in they're actual heatsinks, not a branding exercise.

On the other hand I loathe and despise how Gigabyte always put the m.2 slots behind the GPU. With a lowly 1060, my Sammy 960 Pro bounced off 70 degrees during gaming and throttled. New motherboard, drive placed well above the GPU, never breaks 55, never throttles, and legitimately loads games in half the time it used to. If you're planning on a prosumer drive it's hard to recommend a GB board to put it in. Probably be fine with something more midrange though.

Was that an M.2 under the heatsink on newer boards or older boards were left naked ? Havent found heatsink units to be to bad with GPU as airflow passing over . But then again I use Alphacool/Aqua tuning PCIe unit and would advice an prosumer or workstation User to get a dedicated unit like below!

alpha unit with the right case, and samsung drive doesnt exceed 40c heat doing 3 days work of Geomapping ( dont do that as a day job, just got given software to play around and promote with. Roughly pulling 1k 22mp pictures to and from SSD over hourly or daily rate)

Jamin280672 · 27 Jul 2018 at 11:36

orbitalwalsh said:
Hows the IMC on your chip?? mine handled 3633hz with Aorus 7 and 3466hz with Ultra board (2700)

hope this helps - will have to see if Gigabyte will be able to link Beta Bios here - worth a shot

seems they are jumping from 1.0.0.2c to 1.0.0.5. I think Gigabyte do this often, been mentioned a few times in the thread as some ASESA updates from AMD cause them more harm then good - believe asus did they once to. coding send from AMD is in binary form , so pain to compile etc for no good outcome

http://gigabyteforum.freeforums.net/post/21808

Was that an M.2 under the heatsink on newer boards or older boards were left naked ? Havent found heatsink units to be to bad with GPU as airflow passing over . But then again I use Alphacool/Aqua tuning PCIe unit and would advice an prosumer or workstation User to get a dedicated unit like below!

alpha unit with the right case, and samsung drive doesnt exceed 40c heat doing 3 days work of Geomapping ( dont do that as a day job, just got given software to play around and promote with. Roughly pulling 1k 22mp pictures to and from SSD over hourly or daily rate)

The IMC is pretty good to be fair, my ram kits are 3200mhz C16 G Skill Trident Z so hynix based, all 4 slots are filed, 32gb ram, all running at 3200mhz, 16-18-18-38-1T, 1.35v, with my 2700x running at 4.15ghz 1.380v, soc voltage is at 1.15v, 8 hours prime95 26.6 blend stable and 8 hours of small FFT, 8 hours of realbench, and 25 passes of max settings on IBT.

I've tried it with just 2 sticks of ram, and the cpu just won't give me anymore.

orbitalwalsh · 27 Jul 2018 at 12:09

@Jamin280672

Ah, I need 1.43+ for 4.1ghz and is 70c with 360/45mm rad and silent wing 3 fans...

Good cheap with a Ultra board but Aorus 7/hero/taichi Def need 2700x and overclocked to the point of death haha

eddiew · 27 Jul 2018 at 13:49

orbitalwalsh said:
Was that an M.2 under the heatsink on newer boards or older boards were left naked ? Havent found heatsink units to be to bad with GPU as airflow passing over . But then again I use Alphacool/Aqua tuning PCIe unit and would advice an prosumer or workstation User to get a dedicated unit like below!

Yeah it was naked behind there. The drive cost 4x more than the board... maybe that was a bad call

But it does fine naked and away from the GPU.

orbitalwalsh · 27 Jul 2018 at 14:10

eddiew said:
Yeah it was naked behind there. The drive cost 4x more than the board... maybe that was a bad call But it does fine naked and away from the GPU.

honestly get that badboy wrapped up. have to find benchmarks for the drive , should get you 10c off your currently placement . Back heatsink makes contact to

Jamin280672 · 27 Jul 2018 at 15:32

orbitalwalsh said:
@Jamin280672

Ah, I need 1.43+ for 4.1ghz and is 70c with 360/45mm rad and silent wing 3 fans...

Good cheap with a Ultra board but Aorus 7/hero/taichi Def need 2700x and overclocked to the point of death haha

I thought the max on these 12nm RyZen's was 1.4v ?

Ive just flashed F4J to my board and knocked the CPU upto 4.175ghz, see if it gives me anything more, currently got IBT running as I type this, but its very slow as IBT is using all my resorces, so for now, im out of here.

Edit: think im going to have to hard lock the BLK, its jumping all over the place.

orbitalwalsh · 27 Jul 2018 at 15:36

Jamin280672 said:
I thought the max on these 12nm RyZen's was 1.4v ?

Ive just flashed F4J to my board and knocked the CPU upto 4.175ghz, see if it gives me anything more, currently got IBT running as I type this, but its very slow as IBT is using all my resorces, so for now, im out of here.

pfffft, no idea haha, I dont game to much do dont mind the heat being up. and most likely Zen 2 will go in.

must remember to save my profiles somewhere and try the new bios

doesn;t state it its 1.0.0.4c though - hopefully 1.0.0.5 end of this month , beginning of next

Jamin280672 · 27 Jul 2018 at 15:41

orbitalwalsh said:
pfffft, no idea haha, I dont game to much do dont mind the heat being up. and most likely Zen 2 will go in.

must remember to save my profiles somewhere and try the new bios

doesn;t state it its 1.0.0.4c though - hopefully 1.0.0.5 end of this month , beginning of next

I saved my profile too before flashing it, went to load it after the flash and it had been wiped lol, I guess I should have saved it to the USB stick that had the bios file on it.

They've re-shuffled this new bios a little bit, moved some things around, made it a little easier to configure I think

Zen2 will be going in mine too when its released, especially if the rumours are anything to go by.

not sure if you saw my edit above but, I think im going to have to hard lock the BLK, its jumping all over the place, 99.2, 100.1, 99.7, 100, 98.9 etc etc

After you posted the link to the Gigabyte forum, I checked out the bios files, F4G on the download page is AGESA 1.0.0.2, F4J is 1.0.0.4.

orbitalwalsh · 27 Jul 2018 at 15:45

Jamin280672 said:
I saved my profile too before flashing it, went to load it after the flash and it had been wiped lol, I guess I should have saved it to the USB stick that had the bios file on it.

They've re-shuffled this new bios a little bit, moved some things around, made it a little easier to configure I think

Zen2 will be going in mine too when its released, especially if the rumours are anything to go by.

not sure if you saw my edit above but, I think im going to have to hard lock the BLK, its jumping all over the place, 99.2, 100.1, 99.7, 100, 98.9 etc etc

might be a by product of being beta. its it much of a jump 100- to 90 (below)

finally, bit of a bios house clean! haha

Zen 2 should be good

when i heard of TR2 i thought it might be possible , then again, wouldnt scratch off 2800X 10 core

Jamin280672 · 27 Jul 2018 at 15:56

orbitalwalsh said:
might be a by product of being beta. its it much of a jump 100- to 90 (below)

finally, bit of a bios house clean! haha

Zen 2 should be good when i heard of TR2 i thought it might be possible , then again, wouldnt scratch off 2800X 10 core

No the most its jumping is 100.1 to 99.2 but that in turn is causing the clock speed to jump from 4.2ghz to 4.1ghz

LLC seems to be working quite well when using offset voltage, I have the SOC LLC set to medium, and thats not budged at all, the CPU VCORE LLC is set to high, moving a little but not bad.

Hard locking the BLK to 100 hasnt made any difference, still jumping about.