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Personally I'd take him aside and remind him that industrial accidents can, and do, happen and that disposing of remains is pretty much as simple as turning a key and pushing a couple of buttons. But for a single one off payment of £399, or three handy monthly instalments of £133, such a tragedy could be avoided.
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Christ, this forums full of psychopaths!
That sounds all nice and easy if you're 6ft 5 and built like Arnold Schwarzenegger
But when your 5ft 8 and built like a stick insect that doesn't seem to work so well...
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That sounds all nice and easy if you're 6ft 5 and built like Arnold Schwarzenegger
But when your 5ft 8 and built like a stick insect that doesn't seem to work so well...
He's obviously picked his target well, like all bullies. I'd take it to HR and lodge a grievance, either that or give him a large ice cube to suck on and lock the door.
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Go to your manager, get him to start the grievance process.
If he refuses, you've got more than a smashed phone to worry about.
If he refuses, you've got more than a smashed phone to worry about.
From this and your other posts it seems like he’s one of those dudes who acts nice around people who have superiority over him and then takes out the built up resentment of this on people he thinks he has power over.
Don’t let him get away with it, I’d take him to small claims court if it goes that far, even if it means you’re out of pocket due to fees.
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Hate having to read through a thread to get the full story Few thoughts, but apologies if missed anything.
First step should be to report this to the company. The behaviour is not acceptable.
Getting the money out of them seems not possible. Although the action was anger driven, if he didn't know the phone was in the bag, its damage was an accident. Even if the company themselves dropped something on your phone, they would unlikely pay for it because they'll probably say they are not responsible for personal belongings, although they may be insured for this stuff.
Reporting it to the police seems a bit OTT to me but I'm not saying it shouldnt be done. Did he throw the bench at you? If so, definitely report it. If all you can say is that he picked up a bench and threw it across the room (not at you) then picked up your bag and threwitand not necessarily knowing your phone was inside, they're going to tell you to move along.
IMO it should be handled by the company. This may not recover the cost of your phone but they need "managing" and should receive a final warning.
Do you have any kind of accidental damage insurance on the phone or your contents insurance cover items away from home? If so, look at that for a claim. You can be honest, ie, colleague threw bag not knowing my phone was inside. To me, this is accidental damage.
Lastly, avoid conflicts with colleagues. If you couldn't decide about the bench then maybe should have been reported to team leader/manager to intervene and decide. Maybe do this if there's a next time. Whose job at the time had higher priority to use the bench?
Lots of tough talking here but it's best avoided
especially when they could have you sacked on the spot for saying stuff/threatening behaviour.
If you cannot recover the cost and feel you cannot work with this colleague then you have to tell management this, of course after they've already investigated the issue, but you're going to have to be prepared to walk if they don't let your colleague go.
An old colleague once told me that when certain things happen in the workplace, even if it appears resolved, eventually someone loses their job over it, ie, it simmers away until something happens again. They're right too. So don't let that be you.
First step should be to report this to the company. The behaviour is not acceptable.
Getting the money out of them seems not possible. Although the action was anger driven, if he didn't know the phone was in the bag, its damage was an accident. Even if the company themselves dropped something on your phone, they would unlikely pay for it because they'll probably say they are not responsible for personal belongings, although they may be insured for this stuff.
Reporting it to the police seems a bit OTT to me but I'm not saying it shouldnt be done. Did he throw the bench at you? If so, definitely report it. If all you can say is that he picked up a bench and threw it across the room (not at you) then picked up your bag and threwitand not necessarily knowing your phone was inside, they're going to tell you to move along.
IMO it should be handled by the company. This may not recover the cost of your phone but they need "managing" and should receive a final warning.
Do you have any kind of accidental damage insurance on the phone or your contents insurance cover items away from home? If so, look at that for a claim. You can be honest, ie, colleague threw bag not knowing my phone was inside. To me, this is accidental damage.
Lastly, avoid conflicts with colleagues. If you couldn't decide about the bench then maybe should have been reported to team leader/manager to intervene and decide. Maybe do this if there's a next time. Whose job at the time had higher priority to use the bench?
Lots of tough talking here but it's best avoided
especially when they could have you sacked on the spot for saying stuff/threatening behaviour.If you cannot recover the cost and feel you cannot work with this colleague then you have to tell management this, of course after they've already investigated the issue, but you're going to have to be prepared to walk if they don't let your colleague go.
An old colleague once told me that when certain things happen in the workplace, even if it appears resolved, eventually someone loses their job over it, ie, it simmers away until something happens again. They're right too. So don't let that be you.
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Irony is I don't do violence not my thing. I usually try and talk to my nemesis or enemy before violence happens.
But if it goes off then boxing stance and I go nuts. Horrible feeling and feel real bad afterwards for a few days, hence why I hate violence.
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Most important piece of information appears to have passed GD by here.
Start saving for a new phone.
Also the problem with violence is that you're going end with all of these or some of them
The sack
Locked up
Fine
Criminal record
Record of hitting a work colleague
Getting sued by that work colleague you hit
Yep, it’s over. Count your losses before you end up in a kebab.
Another problem is that you have to be prepared to escalate the violence further than your enemy is and you have to convince them of that. Given that the OP's enemy is obviously familiar and comfortable with using intimidation for bullying, it's very likely that they are prepared to escalate violence to a considerable degree. Merely hitting them is unlikely to be sufficient to subjugate them and subjugating them is the only goal of that course of action. The only purpose of violence is to force obedience. If it's someone who you have to work with, that forced obedience must be permanent, i.e. subjugation. You have to make them fear you so much that they are too scared to disobey you, let alone escalate the violence further. It's rarely worth it. Sure, sometimes mutual violence will end the problem entirely and result in mutual respect. I've had that happen. But it's not something to be relied on.
I would advise raising the issue with your employer. That way, if (I think it's more likely to be "when", but I'll be optimistic) another similar incident occurs the OP will have a record establishing a pattern. Also, keep your own detailed records of what happened, where it happened, when it happened, who you told and what they did.
Never had anything like that, use your loaf and work around it all.
Find work colleagues address and or follow them home, then a few days later do them in when they on the way home.
Don't touch the house if they have kids, that's naughty and wrong in so many ways.
But hood up and head down you can nail anyone. They wont know its you if you balaclava or hooded up to the 9s.
Go the legal route OP not worth the battle.
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In the workplace it has to be left to the company to sort out. You do not take violence to a colleague in the workplace to see if it ends in mutual respect.
Time to log off, this isn’t an episode of the Sopranos.