My Civic Type R. Lots of power, still FWD - the log.

With all that power on front wheels, what tyres do you use? Have you tried some semi slicks on track, something like Yoko AO48s?
 
WoodyUK said:
Thanks :)

Yeah just sounds ridiculous doesn't it, the more I think about it the more I think the best choice is to scrub speed before the turn and just go in slower rather than actually try it flat out.

130mph led to my slide where I bottled it and tried to go down without no acceleration.
I know if I'm still on the accelerator to keep the weight backwards then it'll be at 150mph before it straightens up a bit .

Have you took the SVR to Donington? What sort of speeds are you seeing by the time you get to the turn in (roughly where I've put 130mph below) ? Or I'd imagine the M3 can get up to 130mph if you're pinning it from before Hollywood ?

I guess I'm just too used to having to nail the throttle in 200bhp N/A and going "too fast" wasn't a worry back then haha
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I am think you maybe have an optimistic speedo. ;)

SVR has not seen Donnington, my mate has been with his 800HP Mustang on cup 2's, he was travelling down through craners around 110-115mph and around 120mph by your 150mph marker. On the back straight he was seeing around 150ish mph and similar on pit straight.

I've also been in a 458 Challenge car on full slicks, driven by a professional race driver, he was going down craners around 125-130mph with a peak of 135mph, that was flat out, with a pro in a proper race car.

If your hitting the 150mph and going through craners at 130mph, you'd be lapping in around 1:05 on national layout.
You span out at 130mph indicated, based on my knowledge of craner curves and FN2's you will probably around 115-120mph which was too fast and hence the spin. I tend to go down in the M3 around 110ish on road tyres and around 115-120mph on stickier stuff, its a very hard corner to get right.

Old hairpin is always fun and then flat to the top of the hill to around 125mph and braking hard for the corner.
 
Its not a power thing, you could have 1000HP, your not hitting 150mph, the car can't corner that quick, not many can and then you need to stop, again the car can't stop that quick.

If you could hit 150mph, you'd be faster than any race car and any production car on slicks, except for stuff like F1.
Sorry to say an FN2's handling is not beating the exotic stuff, when drivers are equal.

Do a track day there on national layout film your laps and use something like Harry's lap timer for GPS overlay and I think you will be shocked at how much slower your going than you think are. If you could hit 140mph like your suggesting you'd be able to lap close to one minute, thats not happening. Suspect your lap times will be around 1:20 if your very good behind the wheel.

Your slide was so big because your over speed was way too much, only proper lightweight racing cars like Radicals can generally stay flat through craners at around 125-135mph and even they have to momentarily lift to keep it on black stuff.

The best your gonna see in a road car on semi slicks is around 120mph GPS, which could easily be over 130 on the speedo.

Get out there, have some fun, record the laps as I can guarantee you that you won't be doing under 1:05 lap times which is what a car that can go through craners around 135mph GPS typically achieve. :)
 
Impressive stuff. I also had a turbo fwd Civic, many years ago. EG6 running about 240bhp and it was a handful. 0-60 5.7 I think and 1/4 mile 13.9. I was on standard road tyres and it had plenty of wheelspin. I do think Santa Pod is kind of greasy, getting a good launch is difficult.

Where in Warks are you? I'm in the hole that is Nuneaton.
 
Nick1881 said:
Impressive stuff. I also had a turbo fwd Civic, many years ago. EG6 running about 240bhp and it was a handful. 0-60 5.7 I think and 1/4 mile 13.9. I was on standard road tyres and it had plenty of wheelspin. I do think Santa Pod is kind of greasy, getting a good launch is difficult.

Where in Warks are you? I'm in the hole that is Nuneaton.
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Their surface is smooth allows a little slip which for road cars in stock axles and drive shafts with road legal tyres is gentler on the car.

I had major issues getting my Mustang off the line, best time of 12.9@116 when it was 500HP NA.

My mate in his 800HP one has similar issues, think his PB is a 11.8@130mph.

Both were manuals, my other mate has an auto Mustang XXX BAD it is their a lot his PB is 10.9@128mph his is around 750HP plus NOS

The one good indication of power level and on roll acceleration is terminal speed in mine I was always around 115mph even on a 14s run and my mates 800HP one was always around 128mph again even on a 13s run.

If your trapping over 120mph then your car has some serious roll on acceleration.
 
Yea, the terminal speed is a good sign of some serious power, for example, I had a stock Mitsuibishi Lancer Evo 3, 13.5 @ 105 compared to my Civic 13.9 @ 108 (I think) The Civic sure felt quicker once into third gear and beyond, the Evo could just launch amazing with 4wd.

WoodyUK said:
Yeah I'm going a bit all-in with this one because of all the cars I've driven, I know I can live with an FN2 for a good amount of time.
Which is probably a bit of a fallacy seeing as it's at the point where it's a Friday/weekend car now considering the fuel usage :p



Nice, I'd love to have a somewhat sleeper-ish clean EG/EF/DC at some point, would be a riot, I'd probably go K-swapped with ITBs for a new experience.
I'm just outside Bulkington - Ansty/Shilton area on the way to the M6 J2 if you know it.

Might have to look into York Raceway to see if they have a better surface for a day next year.
The other weekend at Pod, a few people said they weren't prepping the track at all that day - I think they were in April though? Unless somebody dropped fluid and they were doing it as part of the clean-up process.
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Half cage arrived to work today so turned up 30mins before I start thinking I'd be able to get it in and fitted via the boot...
Nope! Needs the front seats and centre console out to get it in via front doors, and maybe even a drill.
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I know Bulkington very well, not far away at all.
 
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