The RTX 2080 pre-order thread

[Unrivaledx21]

I don't think it'll be any less powerful, clocks will still depend on the silcon lottery for both cards, but I could see the Windforce doing a slightly better job at cooling. Anyway the 2080ti FE is showing as out of stock completely now over at NV

Ok, thanks for the input. Hoping the Gigabyte one I went with is no worse than the FE by NVIDIA.

 

[AORUS]

The developers and graphic designers I’ve spoken too off the record that I know personally think it’s bloody brilliant. If you understand what it represents and what NVIDIA has achieved here, that’s because it is.

BS, sorry but it is. Nvidia didn't have a clue on ray tracing it was Turner Whitted in 1979 introduced ray tracing to the graphics community, not Jensen Huang but it took Nvidia ten years!! what was they doing wasting time? but for those who per order will pay for it @40% more then in another few months time the price will drop and drop to $799 (£622) the RTX2080 is still 11GB @60hz.

 

[HazardO]

BS, sorry but it is. Nvidia didn't have a clue on ray tracing it was Turner Whitted in 1979 introduced ray tracing to the graphics community, not Jensen Huang but it took Nvidia ten years!! what was they doing wasting time? but for those who per order will pay for it @40% more then in another few months time the price will drop and drop to $799 (£622) the RTX2080 is still 11GB @60hz.

Ray tracing as a concept has been around for a long time, yes. But Moore's law if it continues will still not be able to deliver pure ray tracing for a decade or more (at 1080p let alone high frame rates). What Nvidia have achieved is a significant milestone (don't think AMD aren't working along the same lines too though as are Microsoft with their upcoming extensions to DX12). It's a step in the right direction and a new GPU design paradigm. It's still not going to perform particularly well for a few years though, but the impact on graphics quality is clear if you've seen any of the BFV leaks.

 

[Smffy]

BS, sorry but it is. Nvidia didn't have a clue on ray tracing it was Turner Whitted in 1979 introduced ray tracing to the graphics community, not Jensen Huang but it took Nvidia ten years!! what was they doing wasting time? but for those who per order will pay for it @40% more then in another few months time the price will drop and drop to $799 (£622) the RTX2080 is still 11GB @60hz.

Angry much, nobody is saying they invented RT but what they have achieved in managing it on a single card is impressive... If you think it was so easy they could have done it years ago maybe you should have just done it yourself, what were you doing all that time - wasting time? Developers (maybe not all) are excited and rightly so - if you master this concept it does in a way 'just work' once you deploy in the engine. Basically much less error correcting and fudging of broken light/reflections/shadows scene by scene by devs.

Also if you think the price will drop 40% in the next few months i'm not sure what planet you are on unless the benchmarks come out truly terrible behind older gen cards and Nvidia are not stupid enough to release knowing that.

 

[AORUS]

I have seen BFV shot in 1080p on Nvidia show with ray tracing on looks horrible graphics at 1080p on a 4K UHD anyway, but you will lose some performance on the RTX family cards at 4k with it turn on maybe it will take Nvidia another five years in making to get it right or their next new gen cards we will see the real changes been made? has you know shadows have always puts pressure on graphics cards most turn it off for a good reason in games I don't see why we need more shadows in games what mods can do now, BFV will be a good game when it comes out on the PC.

 

[Silent_Scone]

BS, sorry but it is. Nvidia didn't have a clue on ray tracing it was Turner Whitted in 1979 introduced ray tracing to the graphics community, not Jensen Huang but it took Nvidia ten years!! what was they doing wasting time? but for those who per order will pay for it @40% more then in another few months time the price will drop and drop to $799 (£622) the RTX2080 is still 11GB @60hz.

I could be really horrible, but I won't. I'll wittle it down to this. You don't know what you're talking about. If what you have taken away from this - is that NVIDIA claim to have reinvented ray tracing, then you need to brush up.

You don't seem to be able to comprehend just what it means to be able to do this in realtime, even if currently sampling at a very low level.

 

[Smffy]

I could be really horrible, but I won't. I'll wittle it down to this. You don't know what you're talking about. If what you have taken away from this - is that NVIDIA claim to have reinvented ray tracing, then you need to brush up.

You don't seem to be able to comprehend just what it means to be able to do this in realtime, even if currently sampling at a very low level.

^^

 

[spikerules]

I have seen BFV shot in 1080p on Nvidia show with ray tracing on looks horrible graphics at 1080p on a 4K UHD anyway, but you will lose some performance on the RTX family cards at 4k with it turn on maybe it will take Nvidia another five years in making to get it right or their next new gen cards we will see the real changes been made? has you know shadows have always puts pressure on graphics cards most turn it off for a good reason in games I don't see why we need more shadows in games what mods can do now, BFV will be a good game when it comes out on the PC.

You sound like someone that had their mother taken away by Nvidia...

 

[jjgreenwood]

Ah no good if that is true. I should've just went with the semi-cool looking founders edition! I chose gigabyte windforce thinking it would be better than founders / reference. So basically I've purchased a lesser card for about the same price.

This is why you should never pre-order and wait for full reviews on each individual card.

That said I've also pre-ordered the gigabyte windforce, but tbf if you not overclocking I bet they perform the same out of the box and I doubt that the FE will be much if any better at cooling the card vs the AIB's, the windforce cooler looks like a pretty sorted design.

 

[AORUS]

You sound like someone that had their mother taken away by Nvidia...

, I can see all the BS in the Nvidia marketing hype anything to get to sell their cards so maybe in the next gen of graphic card we will see hardware ray tracing working for ounces and in games too when they fix it I will give them another 2 - 3 years time.

 

[Random Guy Esq.]

Wat?

 

[Safetytrousers]

Provided a comma right at the start for you to deploy where you think it is most needed, like a little game, very thoughtful.
Leads on the exiting neologism 'working for ounces'.

 

[Rofflay]

He does have a point why not show basic raw fps numbers side by side clearly versus your last generation.

You skew and move the goalposts because you have things to hide or are an immoral cheat. That is what he means by ounces i presume and i agree.

 

[Safetytrousers]

He does have a point why not show basic raw fps numbers side by side clearly versus your last generation.

In my fantasy NVIDIA are holding back the figures so that when the NDA lifts all the review videos start with mouths dropped open in astonishment at the fantastic performance.
NVIDIA haven't needed to provide extra encouragement to sell their pre-order stock.

 

[AORUS]

Nvidia over the years have always shown the performance of the new graphics cards but this time was round all Jensen can talk about is Ray Tracing that was the selling point of the RTX where most of the money was put on now you will have to pay the extra money back to Nvidia for the card, I don't think it will be that fantastic in performance IMO.

 

[spikerules]

Nvidia over the years have always shown the performance of the new graphics cards but this time was round all Jensen can talk about is Ray Tracing that was the selling point of the RTX where most of the money was put on now you will have to pay the extra money back to Nvidia for the card, I don't think it will be that fantastic in performance IMO.

Last I checked they’ve since released figures. Are you not happy with them?

 

[Silent_Scone]

Anyone who comes into to the pre-order thread to moan about something not related to preordering should be removed. There’s plenty of other threads active that aren’t for people looking to buy. It just shows you’re butthurt. Needless to say, if you’re that against something you’re probably not going to preorder anyway.

“Turing - not for the bottom feeders”

 

[Ian Evey]

The real bottom feeders are those that didn’t buy a Volta. For the rest of us staying on last gen or waiting for Amd is the only option if you don’t care about raytracing, after all it’s not like raytracing makes much difference to how a game looks or plays, unless you get all roused by reflections or shadows.

 

[JediFragger]

unless you get all roused by reflections or shadows.

Don't forget the awesome frame-tanks for the 'cinematic' effect

 

[don531]

I have seen BFV shot in 1080p on Nvidia show with ray tracing on looks horrible graphics at 1080p on a 4K UHD anyway, but you will lose some performance on the RTX family cards at 4k with it turn on maybe it will take Nvidia another five years in making to get it right or their next new gen cards we will see the real changes been made? has you know shadows have always puts pressure on graphics cards most turn it off for a good reason in games I don't see why we need more shadows in games what mods can do now, BFV will be a good game when it comes out on the PC.

Your English makes my eyes bleed....