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NVIDIA RTX 2080 Ti 3DMark Score Allegedly Leaks, 35% Faster vs 1080 Ti

980 Ti to 1080 Ti was a very big jump, if that 35% jump is true then I'd say that's crap considering the extra money they want for it.

Nowhere near worth the money.

And also if that 35% increase is genuine then theirs the reason we have the Ti version this early as the 1080 Ti would still be better with the 2080 out.
 
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Minstadave said:
Nope, you’d normally expect a performance boost around that at the same price as the outgoing card.
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Absolutely, similar cost for a huge performance jump, far cheaper for the same performance and probably some cost reduction combined with a modest performance boost is about right. the cost for making a 16/12nm wafer today vs the cost to make a similar wafer 2 years ago are vastly different.

At the start capacity is limited, the tech is new, yields are lower and demand is huge which all cause prices to be increased. With 10/7nm coming through a huge amount of the most important supply, ie Apple, Qualcomm, AMD, Nvidia(usually) have or are in the process of moving over to 7nm. This means a huge amount of bleeding edge customers leaving and also after a couple years you have 3-5x the capacity they had in the first 6-12 months of 14nm. Now bleeding edge customers move to the bleeding edge node, the machines have been paid off meaning TSMC can make profit on wafers at a lower cost after a certain point and the customers who migrate to 14nm aren't desperate to be on it. Those who will only make 14nm chips when they are cheaper.

12nm isn't a real node for Glofo of TSMC, it's just tweaked and mature, similar to the BS 14+++++++++++ Intel are doing.

Nvidia have upped die size fairly significantly, but I would bet that the savings on 16/14/12nm actually means the larger dies are much cheaper to make than a 1080ti from a couple of years ago.

There was a time where you paid say £450 for the highest end new gen card which had ~60-80% more performance than the last high end, which also cost £450. Today they want to up the price to £600 on the same node despite costs dropping by adding 20-30% performance. It's a joke.

Screw Nvidia for pricing everything higher, and frankly the customers who are too selfish to help the consumer tell where Nvidia where to stick their prices. You say now, Nvidia bring prices down, you say yes, they'll up prices again the next gen, then again the next gen after that and at some point you too get priced out.
 
Laughable that someone can call people too selfish to help consumers when the last NVIDIA card they bought probably had silly box art and was AGP.

What an utterly ridiculous thing to say anyway, but that goes without saying these days. Along with 12nm not being a "real node". What is it made of then? Mostly fiction? I guess that makes sense, actually.

AthlonXP1800 posted this not too long ago. We all want something for nothing, and that's not exclusive to those who can't justifiy 1,049 - 1,400 on a GPU.

AthlonXP1800 said:
I am not sure why the majority in there complaining about RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti prices.

When GTX 1080 was launched back in 2016 it was cost around £650 for reference blower cards and £750+ for custom cards there at OCUK, it amazed me nobody complained about the prices! Same thing with GTX 980 Ti and Titan X prices and everybody was fine with these prices.

I wondered what the majority in here had been doing 11 years ago in 2007?

Found the prices table from other forum:

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8800 Ultra was launched on 2 May 2007, it was the most expensive GPU ever cost $850 compared to Geforce 8800 GTX cost $600 launched back in November 2006. I remembered bought Gainward Geforce 8800 GTX which used reference design for over £400 from competitor and I was on nvnews.net forum at the time remembered many people on the forum bought custom 8800 GTX and 8800 Ultra cards were fine with high prices and nobody complained about very high dollar price $1000 for custom cards. Cant remembered what 8800 Ultra prices at OCUK was, May 2007 exchange rate was $1.99 and UK VAT was 17.5% probably cost £500 for reference cards and £600+ for custom cards at OCUK.

Imagine if today exchange rate $1.29 and UK 20% VAT were applied in 2007 then Geforce 8800 Ultra would cost £799 for reference cards and £899+ for custom cards so RTX 2080 prices is not that bad. :)
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Doesn't it depend on what card you got if the performance increase is worth it. Say you had a 780ti and you upgraded to a 2080ti the insane price tag would probably be worth it.
 
But the 8800ultra was the top card the 2080 isn't, the top card the 2080ti is and at £1049 or $1199 and is not worth the money to me I'll stick with my 1080ti. The linked prices are lovely but 1080ti $700, 980ti $661 and the 780ti $729 all flagship cards.
 
That post by athlonxp is bs plenty of people complained about last two gen prices I remember it well just look at the old 1080ti threads!!
 
bakes0310 said:
Doesn't it depend on what card you got if the performance increase is worth it. Say you had a 780ti and you upgraded to a 2080ti the insane price tag would probably be worth it.
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That would only be true if there were no cheaper, alternative cards to go to...if you went Vega 64, 1070ti, 1080 or 1080ti instead you'd save a bundle and still reap fantastic gains.
 
varkanoid said:
That post by athlonxp is bs plenty of people complained about last two gen prices I remember it well just look at the old 1080ti threads!!
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This, some getting 6 month/complete gfx sub access bans because of arguing with people complaining about Nv's pricing.
 
pacegod said:
But the 8800ultra was the top card the 2080 isn't, the top card the 2080ti is and at £1049 or $1199 and is not worth the money to me I'll stick with my 1080ti. The linked prices are lovely but 1080ti $700, 980ti $661 and the 780ti $729 all flagship cards.
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Pretty sure the Titan Xp was the flagship card.
 
Minstadave said:
Nope, you’d normally expect a performance boost around that at the same price as the outgoing card.
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Yeah, at this price you would also expect them to bring support for the biggest game changer in almost 20 years or something /sarcasm


pacegod said:
1080ti $700, 980ti $661 and the 780ti $729 all flagship cards.
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None of those were flagship cards, the flagship for those gens was the Titan Xp, Titan X and Titan Black/Z respectively. This is the first generation since the GTX500 series where there has been no gaming orientated Titan card (as it's been replaced in the lineup by the 2080ti).
 
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